Building on top of existing floor

[tguy1241]

“. . . hung up on things.” No, not on things. On people, and on people’s health. Yes, that is something to get hung up over. Maybe you should try it some time.

[tguy1241]

Oh, you’re the little boy who always wants to have a pissing contest, aren’t you! Isn’t that cute! “My bus is bigger than your bus. . .”
BTW, if you live long enough to be lucky, you will find that learning through a sharing of knowledge with others is safer than having to be bitten by the snake to know it might be poisonous. Surely you don’t want to live your whole life like that, do you??

[tguy1241]

Originally Posted by -TC-

Yo, Tguy.

Most of our members own one or more buses. You do not, have not and likely will not, own a bus.

After reading your previous posts, I believe that you have no skoolie experience, no applicable knowledge nor any craftsmanship talents.

A 12 year old boy explaining the Stork to pregnant mothers. You are full of testimony, but it's all False Witness.

Furthermore, your comments read of an author who is butt-hurt towards the builders who have that which she desires. Angry Jealousy.

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What in heaven’s name is a “butt-hurt”, where did you learn such language, and why would I be interested in so much repressed psycho-sexual ramblings from someone as inexperienced as you?? Go away now and let the adults talk.

[tguy1241]

Daniel, Thank you for your service, marine, and welcome home.

[tguy1241]

This forum seems to be populated by a few inventors of short-cuts who want to try something new, which is fine unless it hurts someone else. There are also some builders who are more than happy to knowingly disguise toxins rather than gut a bus and build a good solid foundation which isn’t going to risk the health of those who live in it. I’m not saying everyone talks like that, but many do.

I guess for me, at my age, there will only be one bus, and it has to be the best one I can make because I want to leave it to my sons. There is no way for me to justify leaving them a death trap, or a time bomb. I understand now what my parents taught me about never hiding the faulty construction because it will always come back & take a big bite out of your ass, and that to later say it was just an experiment in creativity is the coward’s way out. We don’t raise cowards in my family. Others might find that acceptable, but not me.

[Jesussaves]

Found a new feature the ignore list. Only put one person there. I don’t like putting anyone there but I dislike derogatory comments and slander against a person even more. What is so difficult about having a civil adult discussion regardless of what side you are on in the debate?

[Kentucky Dreaming]

Originally Posted by Jesussaves

What is so difficult about having a civil adult discussion regardless of what side you are on in the debate?

I agree 100%.

[Carrier6]

Originally Posted by tguy1241

This forum seems to be populated by a few inventors of short-cuts who want to try something new, which is fine unless it hurts someone else. There are also some builders who are more than happy to knowingly disguise toxins rather than gut a bus and build a good solid foundation which isn’t going to risk the health of those who live in it. I’m not saying everyone talks like that, but many do.

I guess for me, at my age, there will only be one bus, and it has to be the best one I can make because I want to leave it to my sons. There is no way for me to justify leaving them a death trap, or a time bomb. I understand now what my parents taught me about never hiding the faulty construction because it will always come back & take a big bite out of your ass, and that to later say it was just an experiment in creativity is the coward’s way out. We don’t raise cowards in my family. Others might find that acceptable, but not me.

Maybe you should read the original post again. The owner had a bus that is built out already. He just doesn't like the rubber floor and wants to cover it. We don't know anything about where the bus came from. It could be an Arizona bus that had never seen water and could be 100%rust free. We don't know what he plans on doing with his bus, live in it, or weekend camping trips. Why would you gut an entire build out just because you want to see the metal floor? You on the other hand, are starting fresh with your bus. So there is nothing but seats. So yes gut it and do what you want. Just because you are scared of everything doesn't mean others are. Most of the claims you make just aren't true.
Trying to make yourself all superior to the rest of us by calling us cowards, just shows us who you are. Enjoy your own bus and let others enjoy theirs without trying to scare them.

Have a good day.

[Carrier6]

Originally Posted by sethao

Hi there,

I've read through the forum and understand when doing a conversion, the best way to do the floor is to take out the existing stock rubber finish and plywood subfloor to see what's underneath and fix up any rust spots.

However, we just purchased this bus (I didn't read the forums until after) and it's already been mostly built out on the inside. Which means we'd have to take the whole thing apart to pull up the floor.

That's not something we want to do at this time.



But the stock rubber flooring is pretty gross and we'd prefer to cover it up.

Assuming we can make it as flat as possible by removing any of the metal stripping that's raised, do you see any issue with putting plywood on top of it and laying down whatever we choose on top of that?

Ideally, we'd use the thinnest plywood possible, maybe 3/8, and 1/4 laminate or something like that as I have just about 1 inch to spare height-wise.

I understand we run the risk of not knowing what's under the floor but we're ok with that for the time being. I assume it'd be relatively easy to remove what we put on top in the future if needed.

Thanks!

Hello Sethao

Sorry for the hijack of your thread. Good luck with your bus and enjoy your time in it. 👍

[nikitis]

Originally Posted by Carrier6

Maybe you should read the original post again. The owner had a bus that is built out already. He just doesn't like the rubber floor and wants to cover it. We don't know anything about where the bus came from. It could be an Arizona bus that had never seen water and could be 100%rust free. We don't know what he plans on doing with his bus, live in it, or weekend camping trips. Why would you gut an entire build out just because you want to see the metal floor? You on the other hand, are starting fresh with your bus. So there is nothing but seats. So yes gut it and do what you want. Just because you are scared of everything doesn't mean others are. Most of the claims you make just aren't true.
Trying to make yourself all superior to the rest of us by calling us cowards, just shows us who you are. Enjoy your own bus and let others enjoy theirs without trying to scare them.

Have a good day.

This is why I recommended he just cut out the middle section so he can get an idea. Sure rust is often on the sides, but short of ripping out all the cabinetry and framing which is a huge waste of money and time. If the floors were easy to get to, he should remove all of it and inspect it.

I just ripped up my floors for almost nothing because there was zero rust anywhere. I had less than Demac's even from his pics. Not all buses have rust on their floors, and my bus was in wet ass virginia it's whole life, and is 30 years old. It was sealed very well by factory.

So I recommended earlier he cut the rubber floor to get an idea. If there's zero rust, then likely the amount of rust on the sides is also minimal if non-existant, which would be tolerable for a bus to last 10+ years. Of course KNOWING if the whole floor is good and fine is good to know, but it may not be the best option given the time and costs it would take to rip everything out and start from scratch in this particular case.

If he cuts out the center and finds it quite rusty then likely the sides are going to be more rusty, and he'll know at this point in time that he should take the time to remove the cabinets and fix it.

The former option is a risk but minimal one given how far the build already took place and one he'll have to live with.