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10-12-2020, 07:39 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Rochester NY
Posts: 209
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Blueburd
Chassis: International S1800
Engine: 9.0L International Diesel NA
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Closed cell foam
Looking for a relatively small quantity of closed cell foam to fill in some of the nooks and crannies on my bus.
Basically, I'm trying to track down the last few small leaks in my bus. My grafted in tailgate/skylight/roof raise transition is still giving me tiny leaks. The seams are welded, fiberglassed, and bondo'd at this point. I think it's leaking from the pinch in the opening of the tailgate frame... I'll have to grab pictures tomorrow... Hard to explain. But the inner and outer sheet metal fold together in the opening for the glass. A gasket presses on to the pinch seam. I think water is baking up on the sill and flowing into the pinch seam.
I have tried to fiberglass it with little luck. The gasket is a tight fit so I can't build it up to much. Another thought is to pump the gasket full of silicone and smoosh it back in place....
What I'd like to do is pump the tailgate frame/Skelton full of great stuff etc. And hopefully seal that seam.
So my question is. Who know what kind of greatstuff foam is closed cell and watertight?
Last thing I want to do is inject a sponge into a leak.
Thanks in advance.
Pics to come soon.
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10-12-2020, 07:46 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Rochester NY
Posts: 209
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Blueburd
Chassis: International S1800
Engine: 9.0L International Diesel NA
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Instagram post link is the best I can do at the minute. Look at the last few pictures to see interior and exterior of transition area.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_VAgCEp...=1la1tw6pnakbg
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10-13-2020, 06:54 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Rochester NY
Posts: 209
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Blueburd
Chassis: International S1800
Engine: 9.0L International Diesel NA
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this looks promising....
Waterproof closed cell sealant.. marine grade!
https://www.wholesalemarine.com/mari...IaAg48EALw_wcB
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10-13-2020, 07:29 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochey6957
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I might try a can or two of that, I have a few void spaces I'd like to fill with something closed cell, not for insulation but to maybe keep water out. Depending on how much you need to do, this might be useful too: https://www.amazon.com/Touch-4004520...dp/B00BBFWHY0/
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10-13-2020, 07:43 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Rochester NY
Posts: 209
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Blueburd
Chassis: International S1800
Engine: 9.0L International Diesel NA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
I might try a can or two of that, I have a few void spaces I'd like to fill with something closed cell, not for insulation but to maybe keep water out. Depending on how much you need to do, this might be useful too: https://www.amazon.com/Touch-4004520...dp/B00BBFWHY0/
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Ill look into that one. Might be more volume than I need though.
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10-14-2020, 02:02 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Once you break open one of those kits, how long will it last on-the-shelf after the first use?
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10-14-2020, 10:56 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Great stuff needs to be able to expand as it cures and must be in contact with (humid) air over most of its surface to cure. If you try to fill the inside of a door with it it won't cure properly. It finally does harden but looks like Swiss cheese made of hardened plastic--not what you want.
Jack
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10-14-2020, 11:14 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Once you break open one of those kits, how long will it last on-the-shelf after the first use?
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I think you can use it up to 30 days after first use - if you have any left, and if your kit is not dysfunctional like a lot of the reviews for that link report. 15 board-feet is not a whole lot, about a cubic foot.
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10-14-2020, 06:27 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Thank you, I was curious. Basically, no need to have all your gaps lined up to get them all at the same time. You should be able to take your time over a few days then.
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11-16-2023, 09:27 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 709
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000 28ft
Engine: Cummins ISB 5.9 24v, MD3060
Rated Cap: 14
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Just bringing this back. I have some details I want to get before I have the bus professionally foamed. I have about a half inch between my ceiling blocks and the metal roof/rib. I want all those rivits surrounded with closed cell and don't want to count on the pro to get those tiny cracks. Home Depot and Lowe's sell the OSI quad stuff which says that it's closed cell.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/OSI-QUAD...7125/205761633
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11-17-2023, 08:50 AM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,678
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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I don't think it would be a bad product to use like that. The sprayers I've used have done excellent jobs, but I totally understand the apprehension you have with them trying to do it right. Once they've left, you'd never know if they did what you asked or not, until it's way too late.
I used something similar after installing doors and windows on my addition. I believe it was closed cell, because it seals air and moisture, whereas open cell doesn't. But it didn't cure as hard as the pro sprayed closed cell foam I've had installed 3 times now. True to form, the stuff was also low expansion, so you won't distort your blocks or bubble the sheet metal either.
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