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06-28-2018, 10:55 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 65
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Coolant questions
93 international bb
We lost about 5 gallons of green coolant when removing the heaters, so we went to orielys to get more coolant. We grabbed 3 gallons of orielys brand pure anti-freeze, which we are supposed to dilute 50/50 with water.
But after reading the bus operators manual, it says "always use international or fleetrite type of coolant".
Should we take the orielys coolant back and look for international or fleetrite brand of coolant?
Also I don't really understand "SCA". Why do they call it an additive if it's actually required?
Would it be more wise to get a new coolant filter charged with SCAs? or should we get some SCAs and add it to the coolant? Or are SCAs not a big deal?
Thanks for any help yall
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06-28-2018, 11:24 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,673
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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Something that old probably used regular green from the factory, they just want you to use good quality stuff which is the reason for the sticker.
Coolant - It consists of antifreeze (usually ethylene glycol) and an additive package that prevents corrosion, cavitation, and maintains a normal ph level.
With that said, additives are a huge deal.
The additive package can change between coolants. It wears out overtime which requires it's level to be monitored. The level can be maintained either by an sca charged coolant filter, or you can by it in liquid form by the bottle.
Top off the system, use a test strip to check ph, freezepoint and additive levels, and adjust it from there.
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06-28-2018, 11:25 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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I would stick with conventional green.
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06-28-2018, 11:56 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Booyah45828
Something that old probably used regular green from the factory, they just want you to use good quality stuff which is the reason for the sticker.
Coolant - It consists of antifreeze (usually ethylene glycol) and an additive package that prevents corrosion, cavitation, and maintains a normal ph level.
With that said, additives are a huge deal.
The additive package can change between coolants. It wears out overtime which requires it's level to be monitored. The level can be maintained either by an sca charged coolant filter, or you can by it in liquid form by the bottle.
Top off the system, use a test strip to check ph, freezepoint and additive levels, and adjust it from there.
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What type of additive should we get? Is there a good/cheap brand or anything to watch out for?
And is the orielys brand of coolant acceptable?
Seems like an sca charged filter would be a little more simple, I think we will go with the charged filter method
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06-28-2018, 02:06 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,673
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
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Idk about the oreilly brand coolant. Most of your regular green stuff from the parts store is sufficient.
This is the additive I use. https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FIL4056
If you have a coolant filter already installed, then use it. I'd still check it with a test strip though to confirm.
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06-28-2018, 02:59 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Booyah45828
Idk about the oreilly brand coolant. Most of your regular green stuff from the parts store is sufficient.
This is the additive I use. https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FIL4056
If you have a coolant filter already installed, then use it. I'd still check it with a test strip though to confirm.
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Idk why, but I assumed we would have to replace the coolant filter when replacing the coolant. But if we dont have to replace it, that would save alot of time and a little money!
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06-28-2018, 08:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,673
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
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It is a maintenance item. Wouldn't hurt to change it unless you know the last time that it was.
Are you sure you even have a coolant filter? Many busses don't.
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06-28-2018, 09:19 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Booyah45828
It is a maintenance item. Wouldn't hurt to change it unless you know the last time that it was.
Are you sure you even have a coolant filter? Many busses don't.
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Ill take a look at the maintenance records.
Pretty sure we have a coolant filter. One of the filters under the hood says "Napa coolant filter". I can't imagine that would be anything else, but you never know lol.
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06-29-2018, 12:12 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,358
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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Coolant choice is determined by whether your engine has wet or dry cylinder liners. If dry liners, any coolant (within reason) will work, but if wet liners you MUST use coolant formulated for such engines, primarily to reduce cavitation erosion. The wrong coolant will eventually kill the engine. And buy some test strips to know what condition it's in, or send a sample to be tested at a lab. If your coolant filter hasn't been changed recently, that's something else to check into.
John
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06-29-2018, 06:19 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 386
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The main reason they spec IH coolant is to sell IH coolant. The additives can be checked and adjusted using test strips. Heck I'll be using super tech undiluted green coolant.
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