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01-27-2019, 09:58 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 67
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Driver leg room in RE
As a 6 ft. tall person, I'm concerned about leg room in the driver seat of a flat nose RE. I would be uncomfortable if I couldn't stretch my legs out all in the way in front of me from time to time (my left leg while driving, at least, and right when stopped ).
Is there really only about 3 feet from the inside of the front bumper to the back of the driver seat in these types of buses?
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01-27-2019, 10:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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If you're lucky enough to get an "Air" bus with an air seat, you can adjust the height with a touch of a button.
I'm pretty sure the drivers seats are the same from the front whether FE or RE. Back of mine is 5'. Some have tilt wheel/ telescoping wheel, seat adjust fore and aft and up and down.
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01-27-2019, 10:18 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,405
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MollyCMo
As a 6 ft. tall person, I'm concerned about leg room in the driver seat of a flat nose RE. I would be uncomfortable if I couldn't stretch my legs out all in the way in front of me from time to time (my left leg while driving, at least, and right when stopped ).
Is there really only about 3 feet from the inside of the front bumper to the back of the driver seat in these types of buses?
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I'm 6' tall with longish legs, and I have more legroom in my bus than my car. I can either rest my left foot on the footrest to the left of the steering column, or straighten that leg completely out. I feel no more fatigued after driving my bus than after driving my car for a similar time, even though their driving positions are completely different. I'll try to remember to measure my bus's bumper-to-seat distance tomorrow.
John
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01-27-2019, 10:30 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
If you're lucky enough to get an "Air" bus with an air seat, you can adjust the height with a touch of a button.
I'm pretty sure the drivers seats are the same from the front whether FE or RE. Back of mine is 5'. Some have tilt wheel/ telescoping wheel, seat adjust fore and aft and up and down.
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Thanks!
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01-27-2019, 10:30 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceni John
I'm 6' tall with longish legs, and I have more legroom in my bus than my car. I can either rest my left foot on the footrest to the left of the steering column, or straighten that leg completely out. I feel no more fatigued after driving my bus than after driving my car for a similar time, even though their driving positions are completely different. I'll try to remember to measure my bus's bumper-to-seat distance tomorrow.
John
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Thanks John! What type of bus do you have? Flat nose or conventional?
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01-27-2019, 10:35 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MollyCMo
Thanks John! What type of bus do you have? Flat nose or conventional?
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John is spoiled and has a Crown Supercoach, not a school bus.
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01-27-2019, 11:10 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 2,346
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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I to am 6' tall... got an Amtran RE bus, air ride seat.
Plenty of leg room for driving !
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01-28-2019, 05:01 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,798
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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With school buses you gain some legroom if you remove the divider/barrier thing behind the driver seat.
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01-28-2019, 05:53 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,517
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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+1 on moving the driver seat and installuing as tilt telescopic steering column if they dont have one already.. some of the nicer RE's have tilt / telescopic column so you can move the seat back and still hasve a comfortable steering wheel position
-Christopher
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01-28-2019, 11:13 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,241
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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For us taller sorts (I'm 6'1"), three feet between the front of the seat back to the firewall just isn't enough. There is no stretch room. If I were building my bus now I'd at least have made some sort of "toe pocket" to add a little comfort. Tango and I both used an Isuzu NPR tilt/telescoping steering column and that helps some. But with our very short buses, adding floor space to the driving area at the expense of the living area makes for a tough balancing act.
Jack
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01-28-2019, 01:05 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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I have never noticed a lack of leg room in our rear engine bus. I am 6 ft tall.
I replaced the stock seat with an air ride seat from the big truck junkyard.
I mounted the seat where it is comfortable for me.
If you move or replace your current seat consider making or buying a seat that will swivel.
I put an aftermarket swivel assembly between the air ride base and the seat. It makes the living area of the bus a little bigger with one more place to sit.
A tilt and telescoping steering column is on the to do list.
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01-28-2019, 06:11 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 67
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Thanks for the advice everyone! I'll def look into removing the barrier behind the seat and getting telescopic steering column and tilt seating. Appreciate the replies!
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01-28-2019, 11:59 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Pendleton Indiana
Posts: 348
Year: 2010
Coachwork: IC
Engine: MF DT466
Rated Cap: 81
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I have a IC re and it has tilt and maybe telescoping cant remember. And though short 5'7 with the seat aired way up I am no where close to touching pedals. As mentioned if divider is removed you can go back a little further or remount your seat further back I guess.
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01-29-2019, 01:30 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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School buses are built with seat spacing that is very different. In the same size body with maximum knee spacing you will find 13-rows of seats. In the same size bus with the the minimum knee spacing you will find 15-rows of seats. In the bus with the minimum knee spacing even the driver's seat gets less knee spacing. In CA there were even some 16-row buses but oh my goodness were those seats close together.
I can remember one bus that was spe'c'ed with the maximum number of seats. I hated driving it because I could never get my left leg into a comfortable position. The seat wouldn't go up high enough or move back far enough to give my legs a normal position while driving.
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01-29-2019, 12:54 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
School buses are built with seat spacing that is very different. In the same size body with maximum knee spacing you will find 13-rows of seats. In the same size bus with the the minimum knee spacing you will find 15-rows of seats. In the bus with the minimum knee spacing even the driver's seat gets less knee spacing. In CA there were even some 16-row buses but oh my goodness were those seats close together.
I can remember one bus that was spe'c'ed with the maximum number of seats. I hated driving it because I could never get my left leg into a comfortable position. The seat wouldn't go up high enough or move back far enough to give my legs a normal position while driving.
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Thank you! Even if I did end up with a 16 row bus, could I still remove the barrier and move the driver seat position back a bit?
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01-29-2019, 01:09 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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Yes, that is one of the nice things about doing it yourself, your way
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02-02-2019, 03:55 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 7
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Driver leg room in RE
Quote:
Originally Posted by MollyCMo
As a 6 ft. tall person, I'm concerned about leg room in the driver seat of a flat nose RE. I would be uncomfortable if I couldn't stretch my legs out all in the way in front of me from time to time (my left leg while driving, at least, and right when stopped ).
Is there really only about 3 feet from the inside of the front bumper to the back of the driver seat in these types of buses?
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I am 6'4" tall and I weigh in at 400 lbs. I replaced the driver's seat with a air seat via a Big Truck Salvage yard. I did move the seat back a couple of inches (about a 1/2 foot).
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02-02-2019, 05:24 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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I'm 6'2" with a 2003 Thomas Saf-T-Liner transit-style bus. I drove her from Kankakee, IL to Billings, MT and had plenty of room. Mine has a Tilt/Telescopic wheel and an air ride seat. Totally comfortable.
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