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Old 06-09-2020, 09:03 AM   #1
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Front door lock ideas

Hey all-

Trying to wrap my head around the best way to secure our front door on our '89 Thomas. It has an old style manual door that swings open two-ways. Pics below. We want to keep the mechanism on the inside to keep the feel of the bus, so we need a way to lock it from the outside without totally engaging the locking mechanism on the handle. Tall order, I know.

I have gone back and forth on various ideas, and have landed on two I think might work, but would like some thoughts/preferences/"hey, I did this..." from the community out there.

IDEA #1:

Steel hasp with padlock, as pictured in first photo. This seemed to be the simplest and easiest way to lock when we are away from the bus. I would lock the padlock to the open hasp when we are around/sleeping, to prevent someone from locking us in. This idea requires no welding, no cutting down of the hasp, but maybe lacks the "look" I'd like.

IDEA #2:

I like the look of this one better, but the dimensions of these type of hasps and puck locks are much bigger than my area I have to install it will allow. Has anyone ever cut these down to be slimmer in height, but keep the width, and then weld onto said thing you want to lock?

Last two pics are our inside opening mechanism for door we want to keep and the outside of the doors. Middle bar area between top and bottom windows is about 2 1/2 inches. My idea was to cut the hidden puck lock hasp down so it would fit on that metal of the door nicely and weld it to the door. It would then get dressed up and painted nice once we reach that stage.

Any thoughts are appreciated and welcome.

Cheers!

-David
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:45 AM   #2
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I like the elegance (and pry resistance!) of the Paclock.
Pricey with the hasp but worth it...
They make smaller hasps if you look on their website...

The issue for you would be I don't think you can lock it open if you're worried about being locked in...

Unless I'm mistaken the puck come completely off when unlocked leaving the hasp exposed to pranksters...

You should always have multiple ways out of your bus for emergency anyways...

I know I'm pretty paranoid -- but how many stories of skoolies being locked into their buses are there really?

Now it's a question of would my paranoia keep me awake at night...?
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:50 AM   #3
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Well obviously you got me thinking -- thanks!

This hasp says the lock can stay in place so the only question is "is it locked open?" or can if fall off while driving or be removed while unlocked?

https://www.paclock.com/product-line/pl810-hasp/
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:04 AM   #4
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Is people getting locked inside their own skoolies a common thing? Seems a bit fanciful to be worrying about that. As others have said, you probably want to have an alternative way out of the bus anyway.
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:51 AM   #5
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I had been taking a look at their site, PACLOCK, and really like the look of some of their locks. And, yes, I saw that it can be set to stay on the hasp when unlocked. That would be my thing, will it fall off when driving? I also like the elegance of the PACLOCK, kind of leaning that way. First step would be to buy one and start trying to cut it down to size. DIY to the rescue, maybe......

We will still have access to get out of the back door of the bus, should any funny people decided to try and "lock" us in, no matter the style of locking we use. I can't say I am not paranoid, but the whole idea of people running around and then trying to lock you inside, seems far fetched. Like it happened one time, somewhere to someone, and now it is a thing to worry about. A lot of various elements have to happen for that to even be a reality.
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:54 AM   #6
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We have a deadbolt similar to this one installed already on the back door:

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00BAFIU...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Simple elegant solution that I wish I could replicate for the front doors.
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