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Old 10-08-2020, 12:56 PM   #1
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Help On Paint Choices!

So we're getting prepped to paint, and I had thought we would do:
Oil Based primer
Rusto paint (tinted to our colors of choice) enamel w/ hardner
Clear coat (potentially)

However, this isn't really possible! Colorado passed a low VOC law, so they still sell a small selection of rusto paints but nobody will tint them, and we really don't like the stock colors available. John Deere green just isn't our speed. There also is just not really a good selection of oil based paints anymore, because of the VOC law.

So, here's the question: Does it really have to be oil based paint? Farm and implement paint made sense, due to the durability, but it just doesn't seem viable unless we want a white, gray, black, or JD green bus. Or rust red! Can we use industrial acrylic paint?

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Old 10-08-2020, 01:16 PM   #2
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:33 PM   #3
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We're set on rolling it, I get the sense most auto paints prefer to be sprayed. Also, I was hoping we could stay below the 50 a gallon, which seems totally reasonable to me. Even in my extremely expensive area, Rusto is 40 a gallon, and they're the fancy brand...
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:21 PM   #4
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While price is certainly a concern you may try taking a day trip to Wyoming or Kansas and buy some paint.
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:25 PM   #5
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We played around with mixing the stock Rustoleum colors until we found a mix that worked for us. Turned out a little more Crayola than we were intending, but it's still possible to use the standard colors and tweak them by mixing them in the right proportions.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:39 PM   #6
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Industrial paints (i.e. implement paints) can be tinted to any color you select. We used the PPG AUE-300 line and had a few quarts of special colors made up for a logo. The basic black we are using is a little more than the $50.00/gallon you desire ... I think it was $54.00/gallon (plus a quart of activator @ $20.00 for $74.00/gallon) ... but these numbers are from the top of my head from a purchase two years ago. Your mileage may vary GREATLY.
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:00 PM   #7
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WTH is VOC? RSVP, PDQ. BTW, HMU PM, IDK.

Sure enough starting to sound like government tomfoolery with all these three-letter acronyms.

Seriously, though, what is VOC?
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:27 PM   #8
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WTH is VOC? RSVP, PDQ. BTW, HMU PM, IDK.

Sure enough starting to sound like government tomfoolery with all these three-letter acronyms.

Seriously, though, what is VOC?
Volatile Organic Compounds

It would appear that simply put, they're why you shouldn't be inhaling paint fumes. VOCs can be found in a wide variety of household and industrial products.
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:32 PM   #9
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Volatile Organic Compounds

It would appear that simply put, they're why you shouldn't be inhaling paint fumes. VOCs can be found in a wide variety of household and industrial products.
*smh* All because people can't read directions and don't use proper PPE and precautions when performing activities involving solvents and chemicals.
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Old 10-09-2020, 02:33 PM   #10
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Industrial paints (i.e. implement paints) can be tinted to any color you select. We used the PPG AUE-300 line and had a few quarts of special colors made up for a logo. The basic black we are using is a little more than the $50.00/gallon you desire ... I think it was $54.00/gallon (plus a quart of activator @ $20.00 for $74.00/gallon) ... but these numbers are from the top of my head from a purchase two years ago. Your mileage may vary GREATLY.
That may have been true in the past, and it may be true in your area, but none of the paint stores or big box stores is able to tint the implement paints I have access to. I'm currently looking at this industrial acrylic, high 40s per gallon:

https://industrial.sherwin-williams....CP_380788.html
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Old 10-09-2020, 04:19 PM   #11
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I had a 1963 Tractor that I wanted to paint the original Sand color, and I had to mix up different colors to get just the right shade. Someone had repainted it yellow.
So you don't need a store to tint, just figure out what color you want and use the computer to tell you how to mix colors to find it.
The key really is you usually only get one shot at it, and won't reproduce exactly the same later, so mix all you need (or more).
BTW, if you use automotive clear coat, you can paint it with almost anything, the clear coat is doing all the protection and shine work.

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Old 10-09-2020, 06:20 PM   #12
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I used Sher-Kem paint from Sherwin Williams. They will tint it for you.

You may need to visit one of the neighboring red states to buy the proper paint.......
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Old 10-09-2020, 07:54 PM   #13
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Using Sherwin Williams KEM 4000, an industrial marine paint. Call your local industrial Sherwin (one of the stores specializes in industrial paint) or other industrial paint store. I got my tint testing with cheap paint and then converted to this paint with my final sample brought to them for tweaking.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:52 PM   #14
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:34 AM   #15
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Happy to hear people went with Sher-KEM, we decided to go with Sher-Cryl, due to the apparently high tolerance for water/salt damage. Where I am (Northern Colorado), it was $48 a gallon and they tinted it for us. Only sold it in gallons, as a side note.
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Old 10-14-2020, 03:28 PM   #16
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Just a thought but a body shop might be able to tint it for you.
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Old 10-18-2020, 08:44 PM   #17
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So, I am a Professional Paint Contractor, PPG also has a line of DTM paint (Direct to Metal) and other Traditional paint store have industrial line of DTM paints
Both in water and epoxy. The Water is Excellent stuff both sprayed or roll/brush tintable through most of their color rack. There are now through out the paint industry very good waterbase rust primers which you can get through PPG/ Sherwin W.etc.. Again, easy to spray or brush/roll, only thing on these is I have found that 2 coats of these prime is better than one to lock out rust. But they dry fast and can be recoated with in an hour in 50 degree plus weather
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