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04-07-2021, 10:56 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
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Help with Rustoleum scratching?
Hey all, I'm working on the solar slideout system for the roof. I'm using Rustoleum High Performance Protective Enamel, Oil Based. Day two after the paint has dried I can still easily scratch the paint with anything, even with my fingers.
My process so far:
- Cutting metal to length
- Taking the rust off with a wire brush
- Thoroughly cleaning off any oil residue using degreaser
- Power wash
- Dry
- Rustoleum Primer, two coats
- Rustoleum White enamel, two coats
What am I doing wrong?
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04-07-2021, 11:24 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Palm Beach, FL
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Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
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That seems like typical results. I love rustoleum but one of the drawbacks is it takes weeks to get that durable enamel hardness. I've seen people put a hardener additive in it but not sure how much of a difference it makes.
I think rustoleum takes exceptionally long before it gains its durability, though I don't think any high gloss single part paint will gain hardness quickly. 2 part automotive paints and epoxies gain their hardness quickly but come with several tradeoffs...
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04-07-2021, 11:25 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
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Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Rustoleum is a solvent-based paint. You probably just need more time
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04-07-2021, 11:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kazetsukai
Hey all, I'm working on the solar slideout system for the roof. I'm using Rustoleum High Performance Protective Enamel, Oil Based. Day two after the paint has dried I can still easily scratch the paint with anything, even with my fingers.
My process so far:
- Cutting metal to length
- Taking the rust off with a wire brush
- Thoroughly cleaning off any oil residue using degreaser
- Power wash
- Dry
- Rustoleum Primer, two coats
- Rustoleum White enamel, two coats
What am I doing wrong?
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I've found rusto takes at least a month to get to full hardness - before that it's easy to scratch.
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04-07-2021, 11:39 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Brazoria County, Texas
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Engine: T444E
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What Musigenesis said. Absolutely !!
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04-07-2021, 11:46 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Athens, TN
Posts: 1,574
Year: 1999
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flipmode
That seems like typical results. I love rustoleum but one of the drawbacks is it takes weeks to get that durable enamel hardness. I've seen people put a hardener additive in it but not sure how much of a difference it makes.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
Rustoleum is a solvent-based paint. You probably just need more time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
I've found rusto takes at least a month to get to full hardness - before that it's easy to scratch.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatman
What Musigenesis said. Absolutely !!
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Thanks guys, if that's the case so be it, just as long as I wasn't screwing it up somehow.
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04-07-2021, 02:20 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kazetsukai
Thanks guys, if that's the case so be it, just as long as I wasn't screwing it up somehow.
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Enamel paint first dries (loses the solvent), then cures. Curing is an oxidation process and takes 2-4 weeks, longer if the paint is thicker.
I think the lakes and ponds in New Hampshire are still in ice-out! You need low humidity and 70 degree temps for fastest cure time.
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04-07-2021, 02:22 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Athens, TN
Posts: 1,574
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International RE
Engine: International T444e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker
I think the lakes and ponds in New Hampshire are still in ice-out! You need low humidity and 70 degree temps for fastest cure time.
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Currently in KY.
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04-07-2021, 02:39 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Alabama
Posts: 105
Year: 2005
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Engine: DT466E
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Rustoleum and hardener
I am one of those who used the hardener with my Rustoleum paint job. The paint could resist at least my fingernail after 2 days, although it may have still be setting up afterwards. This is what I used, just following the instructions:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...t?cm_vc=-10005
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