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01-30-2020, 09:07 AM
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#21
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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Yes we were hoping for a deal but ended up at about fair auction value from what I've learned from y'all. Very glad I made this post, everyone here helped us to make the decision that this was our bus. Here's a link to a few unorganized pictures for now!
http://imgur.com/gallery/Acii60C
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01-30-2020, 09:16 AM
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#22
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Looks really good!
Does your transmission have ll 6 gears unlocked?
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01-30-2020, 10:00 AM
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#23
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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DT466E 's are more common in IC shorties after 04 since the T44E was discontinued at that point.
I would take an 2005-2007 DT466 if it was in nice enough shape and low miles. They have a decent rep for emission-era engines. Small EGR cooler that can be plugged or deleted without too much trouble.
Found a few threads on trucking forums where the box truck guys were able to delete their 05-07 DT466E's.
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01-30-2020, 10:31 AM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird
DT466E 's are more common in IC shorties after 04 since the T44E was discontinued at that point.
I would take an 2005-2007 DT466 if it was in nice enough shape and low miles. They have a decent rep for emission-era engines. Small EGR cooler that can be plugged or deleted without too much trouble.
Found a few threads on trucking forums where the box truck guys were able to delete their 05-07 DT466E's.
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DT's in shorties aren't uncommon for any year range. The VT365 was ushered in to replace the 444.
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01-30-2020, 10:38 AM
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#25
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Nice lookin' bus. If you have room to store it, I highly doubt you'll mind having more time to start thinking and building!
(And remember, you didn't have the added expense of flying to OR and driving it back...)
Is the wheelchair lift an added bonus (loading tools/toys?) or something you'll have to remove?
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01-30-2020, 10:41 AM
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#26
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
DT's in shorties aren't uncommon for any year range. The VT365 was ushered in to replace the 444.
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True, but it seems like IC didn't sell nearly as many VT365's as they did DT466s after the T444E was gone.
Those pushers with the WC lift in the middle are odd. Don't see them very often and it defenitely makes for an interesting floor plan if you plan on using it for a motorcycle lift or garage area.
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01-30-2020, 11:55 AM
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#27
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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Date code the trans was 01/06 so from what I've gathered I will not be able to flash it.
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01-30-2020, 12:02 PM
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#28
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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Yes there where 6-7 other buses up from the same district all IC mix of midsized and full sized, all with DT466. Most where Maxxforce's and in rough same compared to ours.
Ya I've read a lot of mix things on the egr delete if it's worth it etc....mostly from truck or diesel truck forums. Seems like they they don't cause much of an issue. Luckily this bus dated 07 was put into service March 1st 06. So there is no DPF which I've learned is when the issues seem to really start with the last of the DT's.
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01-30-2020, 12:05 PM
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#29
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sure_whynot
Yes there where 6-7 other buses up from the same district all IC mix of midsized and full sized, all with DT466. Most where Maxxforce's and in rough same compared to ours.
Ya I've read a lot of mix things on the egr delete if it's worth it etc....mostly from truck or diesel truck forums. Seems like they they don't cause much of an issue. Luckily this bus dated 07 was put into service March 1st 06. So there is no DPF which I've learned is when the issues seem to really start with the last of the DT's.
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Yeah, I would avoid all "Maxxforce" branded DT466Es. I think those started coming out around 2008 or 2009.
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01-30-2020, 12:07 PM
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#30
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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The wheel chair lift was actually just serviced as well and is actually located 14 in forward from the rear wall of the bus... Considering the condition, we are actively trying to come up with a way to utilize it.
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01-30-2020, 12:54 PM
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#31
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sure_whynot
The wheel chair lift was actually just serviced as well and is actually located 14 in forward from the rear wall of the bus... Considering the condition, we are actively trying to come up with a way to utilize it.
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It looks like it's in the perfect spot if part of your build was a "garage space" for heavy items.
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01-30-2020, 01:09 PM
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#32
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,404
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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I read this morning that Navistar just agreed to a $137 million settlement to compensate the victims of the Maxxforce engines.
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01-30-2020, 02:22 PM
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#33
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I read this morning that Navistar just agreed to a $137 million settlement to compensate the victims of the Maxxforce engines.
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And that's why Cummins is now the only diesel option on IC buses.
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01-30-2020, 02:40 PM
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#34
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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Lmao ya you know you fucked when you loose an account like that....
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01-30-2020, 03:17 PM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sure_whynot
Lmao ya you know you fucked when you loose an account like that....
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Looks like the swear filter may be fucked!
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01-30-2020, 03:32 PM
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#36
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Looks like the swear filter may be fucked!
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Go away. 'Baitin.
Our Build: Mr. Beefy
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01-30-2020, 04:11 PM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sure_whynot
Lmao ya you know you fucked when you loose an account like that....
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Navistar is IC Bus. You're extra ****** when the account you lose is yourself.
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01-30-2020, 04:13 PM
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#38
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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Oh lawdyyyyy
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02-27-2020, 10:54 AM
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#39
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 26
Year: 2007
Coachwork: International
Chassis: PB 105
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
With a ceiling height of 6'6" you should also have windows that are 29" tall (the low ceiling buses usually have 23" tall windows). Which is awesome if you're planning to keep all the windows. If you'll be getting rid of the windows, I would like to buy a few (one of my windows is cracked thanks to some complete moron stepping on it while it was flat on the floor).
Also, if you click on User CP in the upper left you can edit your details so that people on the forum know where on the planet you are and what kind of bus you have. Helps other users tailor their answers and advice.
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Just wanted to let you know bus is being Gutted all of the windows look great, and will be ready soon for anyone interested in them.
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02-27-2020, 12:09 PM
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#40
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sure_whynot
Just wanted to let you know bus is being Gutted all of the windows look great, and will be ready soon for anyone interested in them.
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I definitely want one, but I'm worried that the shipping would be astronomical.
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