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07-29-2020, 06:13 PM
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#1
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 93
Year: 2000
Coachwork: AmTran RE
Chassis: Iternational
Engine: DT530E MD3060
Rated Cap: 80
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In a pickle here...
Hello all. I have a few questions for you. I'm 6'2" and my bus stripped down is about 6'8". After I put the subfloor, flooring, ceiling, etc. back in, I might have 2 inches of clearance at the highest point. Doable, but I really want to do a roof raise. I initially had Wes from Transcend Existence lined up to come down in December to do it but his plans changed. I have looked into Blueridge Conversions but for some reason their website and info. are down. The next closest place that I know of is in Tennessee. I basically know how to do a raise but my wife doesn't trust my welding skills and I can't really blame her. I have tried several metal fab shops and custom rod shops here in Central Florida to no avail. Either nobody wants to touch it or they physically don't have the space to do it. So first question, does anybody have someone, preferably in my general area that could do a roof raise? Second question. I currently have the floor prepped and ready to put in the subfloor, but should I wait until after the raise or would it be ok to have it in there. Thanks everyone.
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07-29-2020, 06:31 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,424
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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I would leave the floor primed but not painted or any plywood on it. No need to worry about welding sparks that way.
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07-29-2020, 09:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,030
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Do the raise the yourself. Get some scrap metal and practice the exact type of weld you'll need until you can do it decently. Anybody you hire is just going to turn you upside down and squeeze all of your money out of you; if you're lucky they'll also be competent and do a good job (on the raise, not the squeeze).
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07-29-2020, 10:48 PM
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#4
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2018
Location: topeka kansas
Posts: 1,818
Year: 1954
Coachwork: wayne
Chassis: old f500- new 2005 f-450
Engine: cummins 12 valve
Rated Cap: 20? five rows of 4?
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where to find a weldor
you are in florida.... find a place that refits steel boat/ships. Hire a weldor that has certifications... guys that do nuclear powered ships, submarines. Also guys that do pipelines. You might even be able to park in dry dock area while welding is done.....
william
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07-29-2020, 10:51 PM
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#5
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2018
Location: topeka kansas
Posts: 1,818
Year: 1954
Coachwork: wayne
Chassis: old f500- new 2005 f-450
Engine: cummins 12 valve
Rated Cap: 20? five rows of 4?
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become certified weldor
or find a person that teaches welding or take welding classes and have a professional weldor check your practice work. Vertical welding is not the easiest, but with a mig welder is not the most difficult either.
william
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07-29-2020, 11:06 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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All good advice. You can do it.
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07-30-2020, 07:11 AM
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#7
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 93
Year: 2000
Coachwork: AmTran RE
Chassis: Iternational
Engine: DT530E MD3060
Rated Cap: 80
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(on the raise, not the squeeze)
That's funny...
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07-30-2020, 09:33 AM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 2,475
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mako
I basically know how to do a raise but my wife doesn't trust my welding skills and I can't really blame her. I have tried several metal fab shops and custom rod shops here in Central Florida to no avail. Either nobody wants to touch it or they physically don't have the space to do it. So first question, does anybody have someone, preferably in my general area that could do a roof raise?
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Learning to weld is not that hard.
We helped a friend raise her roof up 18". my son and I did the cuts and welded up 3 supports on each side just to hold up the roof.
My son taught a 24 y/o girl (bus owner) how to mig weld the rest of the supports. Believe it or not she did AWESOME considering it was the first time in her life that she welded anything at all!
I see you are in central Florida, I am in Miami.
If you are open to the idea of coming on down to Miami one saturday We'd be happy to show you the basics of mig welding. I still got some welding to do on my bus, actually gonna try to finish putting up the skins this weekend...
Bottom line, it is not hard and you will save a ton of money if you do it yourself!
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07-30-2020, 11:44 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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What part of central FL you in?
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07-30-2020, 06:26 PM
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#10
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 93
Year: 2000
Coachwork: AmTran RE
Chassis: Iternational
Engine: DT530E MD3060
Rated Cap: 80
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What part of central FL you in?
North of you in Deltona
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07-30-2020, 06:28 PM
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#11
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 93
Year: 2000
Coachwork: AmTran RE
Chassis: Iternational
Engine: DT530E MD3060
Rated Cap: 80
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you're definitely right I will be saving a lot of money. convincing the wife is another thing. I'll work on her...
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07-30-2020, 07:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,154
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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what part of central florida?
you are surrounded by experienced skoolie people.
and some have already asked where you are out and some have already offered help.
you dont have to give them your address just tell them what area.
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07-31-2020, 06:39 AM
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#13
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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lots of collective advice here from those of us that actually did a raise. a raise starts before you even buy a bus as some are easier than others. my wife drilled over 1,000.00 holes in the new skin and even tore the seats out with a angle grinder. it was only me and her on xmas break (i drive otr) in iowa that cut and raised the roof under the tarp. bolted 6 tubes in to keep it stable while welding the rest in. she was a nurse with no experience but dug right in. as stated take welding instruction one last note our combined age is 129 years. plan it carefully pm people that have the same bus
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07-31-2020, 06:44 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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also when drilling holes cobalt is your friend throw all your other bits in a box and hide them. we used three 3/16 bits to drill the 1k holes in the ski for the 3/16 carriage bolts we replaced the rivets with
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07-31-2020, 12:46 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 994
Year: 1999
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You are welcome to drive out here to Sacramento at my shop. I would help you raise the roof. I'm certain someone else can help you locally. A big issue for a business. which happens a lot with car repairs, is someone who leave the bus there and not pick it back up. They take up so much space, the cost of dealing with that is as big as the bus.
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07-31-2020, 03:22 PM
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#16
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 93
Year: 2000
Coachwork: AmTran RE
Chassis: Iternational
Engine: DT530E MD3060
Rated Cap: 80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223
what part of central florida?
you are surrounded by experienced skoolie people.
and some have already asked where you are out and some have already offered help.
you dont have to give them your address just tell them what area.
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Sorry, I thought I already mentioned it. Central Florida. About 45 minutes North of Orlando.
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08-05-2020, 06:23 PM
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#17
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 4
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Please use caution on the down website. I got taken by a popular company on materials for my roof raise on my newest bus. Are you up to drive to Tn sometime?
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08-05-2020, 07:13 PM
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#18
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: TX
Posts: 49
Engine: 7.6L Navistar DT466e Diesel
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Drive to Wess. He's in KS and doing raises there.
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08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Redding CA
Posts: 3
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How long does it generally take to do a roof raise?
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08-05-2020, 08:22 PM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 443
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins ISC 260HP/660Q/MD3060 6spd
Rated Cap: 81
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I bolted and riveted my roof on. No welding at all. If you bolt and rivet it then your shoddy welding can be icing on the cake. With a sheetmetal skin riveted to the upright supports it becomes structural as well. My roof isn’t going anywhere unless maybe I flip over on the freeway... but I suspect most raised roofs would fail in that instance with the longer sides being the weakness. Either way they’re much stronger than a motorhome structure.
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