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01-12-2018, 02:32 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Info From VIN
Can the VIN tell you what engine and tranny combo is in it? I'm looking a bus that the seller is not very educated on. He thinks it's a Cummins, but doesn't know much more than that. I am avoiding Cummins 5.9 with a 545.
It's a 2002 Thomas Freightliner, VIN# 4UZAAXBW52CJ73022
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01-12-2018, 02:55 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Manufacturer Freightliner Custom Chassis
Make Freightliner
Model Year 2002
Model FS65
Engine Manufacturer Cummins
Engine Series ISB
Engine Capacity L6, 5.9L (359 CID)
Fuel Type Diesel
Vehicle Type Incomplete Vehicle
Cab Type None
Drive Line Type 4 x 2
Brake System Hydraulic
Series School Bus
GVWR Class Class 7
Country United States
Assy. Plant Gaffney, SC
Body Type Motor Home - Rear Engine
funny- sticker says made in canada
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01-12-2018, 02:59 PM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
Manufacturer Freightliner Custom Chassis
Make Freightliner
Model Year 2002
Model FS65
Engine Manufacturer Cummins
Engine Series ISB
Engine Capacity L6, 5.9L (359 CID)
Fuel Type Diesel
Vehicle Type Incomplete Vehicle
Cab Type None
Drive Line Type 4 x 2
Brake System Hydraulic
Series School Bus
GVWR Class Class 7
Country United States
Assy. Plant Gaffney, SC
Body Type Motor Home - Rear Engine
funny- sticker says made in canada
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I'm pretty sure this was a front engine bus. Did they put 5.9 Cummins in rear engine buses?
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01-12-2018, 03:36 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Yes, they put 5.9's in RE's.
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01-12-2018, 04:43 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Can the VIN tell you what engine and tranny combo is in it? I'm looking a bus that the seller is not very educated on. He thinks it's a Cummins, but doesn't know much more than that. I am avoiding Cummins 5.9 with a 545.
It's a 2002 Thomas Freightliner, VIN# 4UZAAXBW52CJ73022
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Not normally. Transmission type isn't coded into any VIN #s I've seen.
Dealers can tell you though, and post '92, Blue Bird's site should tell you.
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01-12-2018, 04:54 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I know the vehicle was identified as incomplete, but it had the transmission in it as an incomplete vehicle. It's strange that they aren't listed with the engine on a vin search.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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01-12-2018, 04:55 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Oops. Should read "engine and transmission".
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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01-12-2018, 05:00 PM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
I know the vehicle was identified as incomplete, but it had the transmission in it as an incomplete vehicle. It's strange that they aren't listed with the engine on a vin search.
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An "incomplete vehicle" is the VIN for the chassis, engine, transmission and controls when it is delivered to a body-builder to have the body attached.
This designation applies to all buses where the chassis is supplied to the bus company.
Prior to the launch of the Saf-T-Liner it applied to all Thomas buses as they didn't build chassis.
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01-12-2018, 05:00 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Not normally. Transmission type isn't coded into any VIN #s I've seen.
Dealers can tell you though, and post '92, Blue Bird's site should tell you.
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It's a Thomas Freightliner, was Blue Bird involved in the build?
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01-12-2018, 05:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
It's a Thomas Freightliner, was Blue Bird involved in the build?
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No.
Contact Thomas on their webpage and they will be helpful. You should get a return email in a couple of working days.
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01-12-2018, 05:16 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
No.
Contact Thomas on their webpage and they will be helpful. You should get a return email in a couple of working days.
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Email sent, missed calling them by 5 minutes.
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01-12-2018, 06:33 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I'm pretty sure this was a front engine bus. Did they put 5.9 Cummins in rear engine buses?
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Verified, this is a front engine and not rear engine.
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