International instrument cluster

[PeteinSF]

Hi All,


Now that the bus is in my hands, I have some cluster issues...


It seems to "disconnect" and freeze (other than fuel-level and air-pressure) after a random period of time.


I am assuming this is the classic "solder problem". Is there a place to start or should I just redo everything I see? (weller solder station)...


Also while I am in there I will see if I have a six or nine pin diag port. Where will I find it?

[Dead pirate]

On mine it was where the connectors were soldered to the board. You can even see hour it is loose

[cadillackid]

yeah thats the common thing for these... exactly what DP said, its where the connectors are soldered to the board

[PeteinSF]

Cool, thanks guys, I'll go pull it out and start in.



Also where do I find the diag port for the BlueTooth interface? (so i order the right one)

[Dead pirate]

Depends on your setup. Re or fe?

[PeteinSF]

2006-FE300 with 2004 engine.

[Dead pirate]

Ill defer to the Cadillac kid on this one. He has more knowledge on a wider range of buses than anyone I've ever met. Its round and near a fuse box.

[PeteinSF]

Found,


Looks to be a 9 pin connector (with 6 pins) hmm...

[Dead pirate]

Yup. That's it. I love my bluefire. It tells me what's wrong with the motor and mileage. And stuffs

[PeteinSF]

Can you post some screen shots?

[Dead pirate]

I have a RE and it's inside my engine compartment. Here is the home screen and the dash

[PeteinSF]

Too COOL!


Thanks for the peek.

[Dead pirate]

It makes life easier. I first saw Cadillac kid's dashboard and was instantly jealous. That cat has all the toys and all the info. I see a lot of weekend warriors and wannabees, but he's the real deal.

[Sleddgracer]

Originally Posted by Dead pirate

It makes life easier. I first saw Cadillac kid's dashboard and was instantly jealous. That cat has all the toys and all the info. I see a lot of weekend warriors and wannabees, but he's the real deal.

I can't argue against that statement

[Native]

Originally Posted by Dead pirate

It makes life easier. I first saw Cadillac kid's dashboard and was instantly jealous. That cat has all the toys and all the info. I see a lot of weekend warriors and wannabees, but he's the real deal.

... and always so willing to help out others!

[CaseyJones]

Originally Posted by PeteinSF

Hi All,


Now that the bus is in my hands, I have some cluster issues...


It seems to "disconnect" and freeze (other than fuel-level and air-pressure) after a random period of time.


I am assuming this is the classic "solder problem". Is there a place to start or should I just redo everything I see? (weller solder station)...


Also while I am in there I will see if I have a six or nine pin diag port. Where will I find it?

I have the same bus or at least one with the same cockpit and (looks like) the same instrument cluster. It does the same thing. Usually it works fine when I crank the bus then goes completely dead while driving. Sometimes the fuel gauge seems to work while the rest is dead and sometimes not. Sometimes I can grab the wires and jiggle the harness and it wakes up, or rap it with my knuckles and that causes it to wake up. But It seems to be getting worse. Fortunately I have a scangauge D that I can use to see how fast I'm going and whatnot, but I'd like to get the dash working.

These seem to be a real issue. I was very disappointed the first time I took it out, because my bus (2002 International 3800) was sold to me with 126k miles on it, and when I removed the instrument cluster written on the back of it in grease pencil was "replaced 2007", meaning it had 5 or 6 years of mileage on it that wasn't included in the 126k - or at least I assume it means that. I doubt the mechanics would match up the odometer or hour meter?

Thanks to this thread I guess I've learned it is a soldering problem and not a loose wire harness like I thought - though last time I took it out I cleaned the contacts with some CRC QD contact cleaner and stuck a little piece of plastic in between the plastic parts of the harness connection because it was a bit loose, and that seemed to work at the time. But it went out again very soon so I think I had just gotten lucky and it was a coincidence - like I said, it will work fine then die. I think it just happened to work fine that time and that made me think I had it fixed. But it ain't fixed!

Does anyone know with this soldering issue, how to find the location of the problem? Should it be visible to the naked eye? It's a crack in the green circuit board?

[CaseyJones]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

yeah thats the common thing for these... exactly what DP said, its where the connectors are soldered to the board

I'm not at my bus right now, but I have this issue. Is the solution as simple as just resoldering the connection?

[o1marc]

If you're in over your head, this place does refurbs for $89.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/INTERNATION...AAAOSwAHBZ7S1i

[Dirtdoctor]

Hi guys- I have three Intertrashinals (my mechanics word) and they all have cluster issues but google/YouTube has a easy repair! Spend a couple moments on YouTube and you can fix the issue. It’s not as difficult as the dealership will make it out to be, or $1200 for the new parts and labor.

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Dead pirate

I have a RE and it's inside my engine compartment. Here is the home screen and the dashAttachment 31672Attachment 31673Attachment 31674

Do you have a link as to how to set this up? I have this same intermittent dashboard freezing problem, and it seems like setting up Bluefire would be a better investment of my time.