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09-21-2022, 06:28 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,123
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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lets talk fresh water tanks?
ok.
i purchased fresh water black and grey tanks in good shape for 25$ a piece.
now that i have them home and am looking at them better.
i have a question someone might be able to answer for the fresh tank i have?
1- the fresh water outlet is only halfway down the height of the tank?
does it have a drop tube inside? for now it is a tee screw into the side of the tank at halfway up with the tee on the run/branch.
am i missing something?
2-it has the sensor position for a level guage but they are all at the same level within an inch of each other?
actually 4 of of them in a line for a fresh water tank?"
the ones i have wired were basic high medium and low.
whats going on with this guy?
dont know what they came out of yet but am trying to find out from who i bought them from?
he probably wont remember but i can only ask.
i can only try.
i question the pickup for water?
and the sensor for water level?
i know my old bus has water tanks and sensor level out of a coachmen and they read high medium and low and a band strap sensor on the propane tank.
man said these came out of a camper/trailer?
what?
only pull half the water out of the tank?
opinion good or bad is welcome.
my feelings dont get hurt?
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09-22-2022, 03:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
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Year: 86
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Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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any thoughts/ideas/opinions are appreciated.
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09-22-2022, 05:33 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,624
Year: 1996
Coachwork: AmTran (Now Navistar)
Engine: DT444E (7.3L) International
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Is it possible that the outlet was the BOTTOM of the tank in the original installation? That would would put the sensors at varying heights when the outlet is positioned horizontally?
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09-22-2022, 08:41 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,553
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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The post was a lot to read. Pictures, and perhaps any manufacturer's markings on the sensors might help.
Without seeing these, are you sure the inlet is on the side, or is the tank sitting on it's side (so the inlet appears to be on one side, not the top).
See, pictures avoid me asking silly questions. I'm having real trouble visualizing the situation.
Regarding sensors, there are a couple of technologies, I think; and none of them are reliable. Do you have the gauge that goes with the sensors? Can you put a ohmmeter on the leads and see how they react with water and different levels? Are they complete, or are some of the sensors missing, so it seems like there are just sensors in the middle.
....and on and on...
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09-23-2022, 05:04 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,123
Year: 86
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Chassis: Ford B700
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ok i suck at posting pics? just me not my computer?
and before i read your post rucker i woke up in the middle of the night with the vertical thought.
yes that is what it was built for install.
will know tomorrow if it works for me or not.
i dont know what the tanks came out of or have the monitoring system but i do have a monitoring system from a coachmen thats in my other bus that i hope works with them.
i had a brain fart when looking at the tank?
never thought of one being vertical to maintain space but i can see it now and hopefully it fits because it would help alot where i need it.
as far as the monitor? i can figure out the wires with no issue.
the one i need to figure out is the propane level monitor if she is using bbq tanks?
which is what she wants.
thanks for the advice it was a stupid question cause i didnt think about it enough.
never thought of a vertical skinny holding tank.
then again never had an RV or camper.
but have always had a tent/backpack and pit and pat.
thank yall.
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09-23-2022, 05:10 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,553
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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Not a problem. It just validates for all of us sometimes asking the unasked simple question is the key.
As for level monitoring, in my research the only systems that seemed to be reliable (if the Internet's opinion is of any value) are some wicked expensive things (I think SeeLevel was one brand).
My solution was a) match the graywater tank capacity to the freshwater capacity so when you run out of fresh water it's time to drain the tanks and b) create a visual for the freshwater tank-I have a water column next to the tank in the form of a large diameter clear hose (like what you can buy at the hardware store). I can see the freshwater tank level, and I may even add a fishing buoy to make it easier to see.
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09-23-2022, 05:40 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,123
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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i do commercial water for a living including rain water harvesting and solar water systems
in 3- to whatever story buildings.
between my work with complicated stuff and a new to me bought tank of how to make it work?
i asked a stupid question because i didnt take the time to think it through.
my fault.
during the week i deal with work but this week i ran to buy weekend work stuff and had a few hours from work cause i took a half vacation day but still had work calls.
not a problem except i asked a question i should not have.
like i said BRAINFART.
if you have to ask what that is?
i mucked up and jumped the gun.
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10-05-2022, 04:39 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 85
Year: 2003
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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I used the seelevel system and its great, well worth the money in my opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker
Not a problem. It just validates for all of us sometimes asking the unasked simple question is the key.
As for level monitoring, in my research the only systems that seemed to be reliable (if the Internet's opinion is of any value) are some wicked expensive things (I think SeeLevel was one brand).
My solution was a) match the graywater tank capacity to the freshwater capacity so when you run out of fresh water it's time to drain the tanks and b) create a visual for the freshwater tank-I have a water column next to the tank in the form of a large diameter clear hose (like what you can buy at the hardware store). I can see the freshwater tank level, and I may even add a fishing buoy to make it easier to see.
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