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01-17-2019, 05:29 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 12
Coachwork: Thomas 5 window w/o wheelchair lift.
Chassis: 2002 Ford e450
Engine: Powerstroke 7.3
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Lights or no lights remove or paint
How many out there just painted over the lenses of the overhead lights or did full on body work and covered the holes and made them flush? Got a Thomas short bus and it would be a fiberglass job.
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01-17-2019, 05:41 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caeastwood
How many out there just painted over the lenses of the overhead lights or did full on body work and covered the holes and made them flush? Got a Thomas short bus and it would be a fiberglass job.
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I'd just remove em.
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01-17-2019, 05:53 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
Posts: 482
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
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We have removed all 8 on our bus in order to get it inspected. However we plan to reinstall the back 4 and wire them up for flood/backup lights with white lenses. The plan for the front is to plate the holes from the back and fill in the gap to make it all smooth.
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01-17-2019, 09:19 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 12
Coachwork: Thomas 5 window w/o wheelchair lift.
Chassis: 2002 Ford e450
Engine: Powerstroke 7.3
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Plan to run lights both front and back. Going to tie at least 1 into the reverse light. Thinking about a led lightbar on front and side for campsite.
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01-17-2019, 09:19 AM
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#5
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 335
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Corbeil
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Ford PowerStroke Diesel 6.0
Rated Cap: GVWR 11,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caeastwood
How many out there just painted over the lenses of the overhead lights or did full on body work and covered the holes and made them flush? Got a Thomas short bus and it would be a fiberglass job.
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If you have fiberglass endcaps the lenses might not go through. On my Corbeil the lights are flush mounted on the outside, so I just have screw holes and holes from the electrical to fill. I'm going to use a trick I found on a boating website to patch the holes. You take cover the outside with packing tape, put some mesh drywall tape on the inside and then gob the whole thing full of epoxy. The mesh and the inner glob help keep the plug from falling out and the packing tape gives you a pretty good starting point on a clean, flush outer surface. I'm also going to be spray foaming the caps, so that'll provide additional support to the plug to keep it from getting pushed in.
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01-17-2019, 03:02 PM
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#6
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 12
Coachwork: Thomas 5 window w/o wheelchair lift.
Chassis: 2002 Ford e450
Engine: Powerstroke 7.3
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This is what I have.
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01-17-2019, 04:41 PM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I would remove them to paint and then reinstall if keeping them. My front yellows will remain turn signals on the front and the red ones will get replaced with bright driving lights. Same on rear, bright back up lights.
I'm leaving all my eyebrows.
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01-17-2019, 09:43 PM
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#8
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: in the bus on the road
Posts: 529
Year: 1998
Coachwork: myself
Chassis: amtran
Engine: international dt466e allison md 3060
Rated Cap: 13 ton or so says the tit
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I covered them with diamond plate
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01-18-2019, 12:09 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Welded then bodyworked ours.
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01-18-2019, 03:26 AM
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#10
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 12
Coachwork: Thomas 5 window w/o wheelchair lift.
Chassis: 2002 Ford e450
Engine: Powerstroke 7.3
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The body there is fiberglass. Prob. Just glass it in.
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01-21-2019, 02:50 PM
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#11
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Stansbury Park, Utah
Posts: 189
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: GA39530
Engine: DT466E 215hp 620tq
Rated Cap: 40
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Pulled them
I pulled them and but fiberglass panel on the inside with Epoxy and will fill in the holes with Bondo, I think the lights are ugly.
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01-21-2019, 03:11 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Heck yeah. I think they're also illegal in many places.
I like school buses but I like to get as much of the school stuff off em as I can.
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01-21-2019, 04:02 PM
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#13
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: in the bus on the road
Posts: 529
Year: 1998
Coachwork: myself
Chassis: amtran
Engine: international dt466e allison md 3060
Rated Cap: 13 ton or so says the tit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I like school buses but I like to get as much of the school stuff off em as I can.
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The day i primed over that yellowwas a great day.
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01-26-2019, 08:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,511
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Seems to me... we are wise to make our buses look minimally school bus and maximally RV.
On Millicent, I removed the school lamps, and riveted in place one sheet metal panel that covers the full width. The photo shows it installed and painted, and I finished it off with new marker lights.
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01-26-2019, 09:37 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 129
Year: 2000
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE
Engine: DT466E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ermracing
We have removed all 8 on our bus in order to get it inspected. However we plan to reinstall the back 4 and wire them up for flood/backup lights with white lenses.
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I did this front and back with 7" white LED lights from Amazon. I've wired them to a simple switch, and will use them as flood/backing lights. I haven't had a chance to use them yet, but after wiring and testing, I think they'll work fine.
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01-26-2019, 10:00 PM
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#16
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 251
Year: 2007
Coachwork: ICCORP
Chassis: CE300
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 16
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I will be keeping all lights and adding more. I will run all of the "special" lights off a "Parade Mode" power bus so that they can only be turned on in "Parade Mode" - here in the states. SotB, I will turn them all on to fit in
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01-27-2019, 09:17 AM
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#17
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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Filled mine in as well, cut patches and welded them in.
Then found a fiberglass sun visor off a 1989 K100 Kenworth cab over.
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01-27-2019, 08:00 PM
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#18
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 64
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I kept my lights. They're both amber in front and red in the rear. I'll be replacing the bulbs and rewiring them so I can use them as clearance/turn signals. REDD I really like what you've done. Ive never seen that before. Looks good
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01-27-2019, 08:08 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Speaking of lights, mine on the 99 have a base with a single socket and what looks like a standard 1156/1157 build. I pulled these off the 87 BBAA, they are a sealed beam. Something tells me they will be a better option. If they are I'll run them on mine, but they require a bigger hole in the sheet metal to mount them.
Anyone have this type in their bus?
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01-27-2019, 10:07 PM
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#20
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,363
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elliot Naess
Seems to me... we are wise to make our buses look minimally school bus and maximally RV.
On Millicent, I removed the school lamps, and riveted in place one sheet metal panel that covers the full width. The photo shows it installed and painted, and I finished it off with new marker lights.
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Like Elliot, I put a single piece of aluminum all the way across the front of the front roof cap to cover the original red flashing lights there. I used 3M 5200 adhesive to bond it on - if it's strong enough for underwater joints on seagoing yachts it should work on a bus! The rear red flashers are now repurposed as extra high-mount brake lights that work when the fog lights are switched on.
John
PS - Elliot, that's one neat rivet job you did. I like how all your rivets line up perfectly - little things like that say a lot.
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