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09-06-2020, 05:41 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 13
Year: 1972
Coachwork: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 345 V8
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Need help finding part!
Hello all!
I've got a 72 International Loadstar 1600 with a 345. Does anyone know where to find a thermostat and gasket? It seems like anytime I search for parts, I can't find an exact match. Belts seem to be hard to find as well. I'm able to find the correct width but the length is always too short.
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09-06-2020, 05:50 PM
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#2
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 7
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Need injectors for my 7.3 t444e 2000 4300 international
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09-06-2020, 06:33 PM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,153
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyLeg
Hello all!
I've got a 72 International Loadstar 1600 with a 345. Does anyone know where to find a thermostat and gasket? It seems like anytime I search for parts, I can't find an exact match. Belts seem to be hard to find as well. I'm able to find the correct width but the length is always too short.
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if you have one in your area try the older stores that NAPA hass been buying out.
and since then any NAPA store has had access to that kind of stuff.
any auto parts store and kids at the counter ask them to drop there computer and pull there gates book for belts or grote book for lights out from under the counter and find the correct number or take the book and find it for them.
maybe i can help?
which belt are you trying to find.
does it run more than one accessory?
or is it crank to power steering or whatever.
you can get the gates stuff online and walk into the parts store with the parts number.
wish you luck.
i have a belt handbook but its for HVAC equipment and could probably match one up but would need to know what type of groove your pulley has?
for example a type A or type AB.
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09-06-2020, 06:45 PM
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#4
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,153
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart
Need injectors for my 7.3 t444e 2000 4300 international
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that engine is widely known and used.
there is no reason why you can not walk into a parts store and ask for them or order the size you want online?
but then again if you dont know how to buy injectors for your motor then you need someone to put the injectors in for you so let them buy the injectors?
not trying to be a butthead but if you dont know where to get injectors then you probably dont knnow what it takes to replace them.
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09-06-2020, 06:59 PM
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#5
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 7
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No I can replace them I was just hoping someone would tell me where I can get a decent deal on them I found a whole set for I thousand dollars but they are rebuilt and Don’t know if rebuilds is a good way to go thanks
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09-06-2020, 09:18 PM
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#6
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart
No I can replace them I was just hoping someone would tell me where I can get a decent deal on them I found a whole set for I thousand dollars but they are rebuilt and Don’t know if rebuilds is a good way to go thanks
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Considering these injectors typically go for around $200 *EACH*, then I'd say a full set for a thousand is either a good deal, or of suspect quality (or both?). Rebuilds are usually just fine.
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09-07-2020, 08:57 AM
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#7
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,421
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyLeg
Hello all!
I've got a 72 International Loadstar 1600 with a 345. Does anyone know where to find a thermostat and gasket? It seems like anytime I search for parts, I can't find an exact match. Belts seem to be hard to find as well. I'm able to find the correct width but the length is always too short.
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ihpartsamerica.com
Most any auto parts store should have them . Just do not tell them it is a school bus. These engines were used in pickups and scouts as well and they will be able to look up numbers better by searching pickups instead of trucks.
Do your old belts have any marking to identify them? if use those numbers to cross referance.
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09-07-2020, 08:59 AM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,421
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Another note on belts any real auto parts store can measure the belts to find a match
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09-08-2020, 09:15 AM
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#9
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 7
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Thanks I appreciate the help
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09-08-2020, 11:26 AM
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#10
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,458
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart
Need injectors for my 7.3 t444e 2000 4300 international
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Do you have part numbers? I have some NOS injectors.
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09-08-2020, 11:31 AM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,975
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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thermostat and gasket.. go to napa and it is either a 72 or 73 International Scout II with a 345..
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09-08-2020, 11:33 AM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,975
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart
Need injectors for my 7.3 t444e 2000 4300 international
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have you for sure tested the injectors bad? be sure to run through all the tests and various fixes. before just swapping them out..
if you just want new ones, thats fine too. if they are old and worn out.. but injectors misfiring or throwing codes can often be traced to HPOP pressure or wiring harness issues..
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09-14-2020, 05:18 PM
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#13
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 13
Year: 1972
Coachwork: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 345 V8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223
if you have one in your area try the older stores that NAPA hass been buying out.
and since then any NAPA store has had access to that kind of stuff.
any auto parts store and kids at the counter ask them to drop there computer and pull there gates book for belts or grote book for lights out from under the counter and find the correct number or take the book and find it for them.
maybe i can help?
which belt are you trying to find.
does it run more than one accessory?
or is it crank to power steering or whatever.
you can get the gates stuff online and walk into the parts store with the parts number.
wish you luck.
i have a belt handbook but its for HVAC equipment and could probably match one up but would need to know what type of groove your pulley has?
for example a type A or type AB.
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So good news! We cleaned the thermostat and the housing. We boiled it and around 187 degrees it opened up! So it's still good. My only concern now is once it's time to drive back up the mountain, it's a 1 hour and 30 min drive back to Weaverville, NC and 25 has a steep incline for about 30 mins of that drive. I'm trying to do everything I can at the moment to fix it up to avoid overheating. Any recommondations? It's a 5 speed so luckily I can control that aspect. We're replacing all of the hoses, flushed the radiator, added new coolant. Anything I'm missing?
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09-14-2020, 05:19 PM
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#14
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 13
Year: 1972
Coachwork: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 345 V8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
ihpartsamerica.com
Most any auto parts store should have them . Just do not tell them it is a school bus. These engines were used in pickups and scouts as well and they will be able to look up numbers better by searching pickups instead of trucks.
Do your old belts have any marking to identify them? if use those numbers to cross referance.
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The belts were so old that the markings were gone. We ended up finding the right ones and I saved the part numbers to make it easier for the next go around.
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09-14-2020, 06:51 PM
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#15
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,421
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Have had overheating problems already? These old Internationals have really good cooling systems so I would expect it to Not overheat unless there was already an issue.
I have pulled some pretty heavy trailers over steep grades and I never see the gauge go above normal. I have verified the gauge is correct too. I did have an International dump truck loadstar 1600 with the same engine and it never overheated either.
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09-15-2020, 02:30 AM
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#16
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 7
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Need injectors
Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
Do you have part numbers? I have some NOS injectors.
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No I don’t have the part numbers and what is nos . I found a company that will rebuild my injectors on eBay for 545 just don’t know
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09-15-2020, 06:47 AM
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#17
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,421
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart
No I don’t have the part numbers and what is nos . I found a company that will rebuild my injectors on eBay for 545 just don’t know
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NOS. New old stock
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09-15-2020, 10:12 PM
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#18
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 7
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Nos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
NOS. New old stock
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Thanks I Need all the help I can get if it was gas motor no problem diesel motor all new game for me
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09-15-2020, 10:50 PM
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#19
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,458
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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When I get home I'll track down what they fit.
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09-16-2020, 07:20 AM
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#20
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,421
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyLeg
So good news! We cleaned the thermostat and the housing. We boiled it and around 187 degrees it opened up! So it's still good. My only concern now is once it's time to drive back up the mountain, it's a 1 hour and 30 min drive back to Weaverville, NC and 25 has a steep incline for about 30 mins of that drive. I'm trying to do everything I can at the moment to fix it up to avoid overheating. Any recommondations? It's a 5 speed so luckily I can control that aspect. We're replacing all of the hoses, flushed the radiator, added new coolant. Anything I'm missing?
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Something else to check , ignition timing, more to the point check that it is advancing properly. The manual specs 41 degrees total of centrifugal and vacuum. Do not add 41 to the base timing , that is what I mean by "total" timing
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