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05-05-2021, 11:31 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 7
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Need help identifying!
Hello everyone. I am new here and just made an account.
My girlfriend and I have wanted to do a bus conversion now for a few years and I stumbled across this Bus for basically free.
My plan was to use it to haul my racecar and sleep in it for big shows. I attached a picture of my racecar on the trailer to see if you guys think it will haul it.
The only information I have says it is a 1981 GMC. It has a rebuilt small block Chevy with 5,000 miles under the hood. And there is a tag on the bag of the bus that says superior. I would just like to know what it is before I get too far into the project and find out it’s not worth it.
Does anyone have an idea of what this thing is?! Pleas help
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05-05-2021, 11:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Near Flagstaff AZ
Posts: 1,951
Year: 1974
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: "Atomic"
Engine: DD 8V71
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Having a bit of experience with "free" buses, I can say there's never really a free bus...they all cost money. One of our buses is even named Freebie. But if she runs, that's a good deal if you're willing to take on the project. That is one cool looking little bus.
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05-05-2021, 11:59 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,480
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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That looks like a GM P-30 chassis so think 1 ton dually. 350 Chevy with a turbo 400? It will pull your trailer and race car. It has a lot of wind drag so highway speeds will be a bit of a challenge, so don’t get in a hurry. But the price is right.
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05-06-2021, 05:41 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 44
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT360
Rated Cap: 66pax
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That is a Superior Pioneer FC. Very tough to come across, I've only ever seen one in a junkyard (and I've been in a LOT of junkyards).
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05-06-2021, 08:48 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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You'll get about 4mpg pulling that trailer.
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05-06-2021, 10:46 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s2mikon
That looks like a GM P-30 chassis so think 1 ton dually. 350 Chevy with a turbo 400? It will pull your trailer and race car. It has a lot of wind drag so highway speeds will be a bit of a challenge, so don’t get in a hurry. But the price is right.
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No hurry here! We take our time getting to the track anyway. Only do about 65-70 even with my truck. If it can slow roll at 60 it’s good enough for me.
Generally get behind other rigs going to the track!
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05-06-2021, 10:48 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CincinnatiNKYBuses
That is a Superior Pioneer FC. Very tough to come across, I've only ever seen one in a junkyard (and I've been in a LOT of junkyards).
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WOW!! I’ve spent hours! And I mean hours, close to 10 or 12 trying to figure it out.
Thank you so much! Do you know much about them? When I couldn’t find what it was I got pretty nervous I may have made a mistake taking this project on
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05-06-2021, 10:50 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 7
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Originally Posted by o1marc
You'll get about 4mpg pulling that trailer.
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Not a problem. I’ll measure it in smiles per gallon then. I’m sure it’s cheaper than what I spend in race fuel lol
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05-06-2021, 10:51 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 7
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Originally Posted by rossvtaylor
Having a bit of experience with "free" buses, I can say there's never really a free bus...they all cost money. One of our buses is even named Freebie. But if she runs, that's a good deal if you're willing to take on the project. That is one cool looking little bus.
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Oh yeah! I’ve learned all to well nothing is free! Definitely gonna be a fun project though
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05-06-2021, 11:20 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 994
Year: 1999
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It doesn't have a title I assume, but it does have a VIN? That tells you what it is.
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05-06-2021, 11:28 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,480
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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I just counted 10 lug bolts and looks like 19.5 tires so it may be a P-40 chassis then.
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05-06-2021, 11:58 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeNimble
It doesn't have a title I assume, but it does have a VIN? That tells you what it is.
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It does have a title. Just says 81 GMC. Does have the vin number and tried looking it up a few times and couldn’t find anything. Turns out it is a superior pioneer FC.
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05-07-2021, 12:14 AM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s2mikon
I just counted 10 lug bolts and looks like 19.5 tires so it may be a P-40 chassis then.
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It is in fact 8r 19.5 tires. Also had the chair lift so it would make sense to be on the bigger p40 chassis. Plus it seems bigger than the p30 busses I was looking at but you would know better!
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05-07-2021, 12:19 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,480
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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Running gear wise it will be economical to repair. If it is geared to low swap in a 4l80e or a nv4500.
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