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05-07-2014, 05:09 AM
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#41
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
My project has been put on hold for a bit unfortunately. Still trying to get a hold of a good rust converter. Hopefully I'll have more to report soon and will focus on starting an actual build thread.
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05-07-2014, 06:03 AM
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#42
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
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Originally Posted by PowerDaniels
My project has been put on hold for a bit unfortunately. Still trying to get a hold of a good rust converter. Hopefully I'll have more to report soon and will focus on starting an actual build thread.
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I picked up a couple of jugs of Corroseal at the semi-local marine supply shop yesterday. I asked the guy if there was any difference between Ospho and Corroseal in their capabilities, and he basically said its user preference and cost- 20-ish for the Ospho versus 47 for the Corroseal. The non-acid base of Corroseal was my appeal over Ospho.
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05-07-2014, 09:07 PM
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#43
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 218
Year: 1997
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
The acid is what etches the galvanized surface to allow the coating to adhere. I went with Ospho on my bus with coating of Rustoleum pro primer and top coat. Worked great.
http://www.corroseal.com/contact/faq.aspx
Can Corroseal be used on galvanized steel?
Since galvanized steel is coating with zinc to prevent corrosion, Corroseal is not effective over non rusted galvanized steel. If the galvanized steel is rusted, do a test application to determine if there is enough rust present for Corroseal to be effective. The Corroseal will not bond properly if the galvanized steel is not sufficiently rusted.
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05-07-2014, 10:20 PM
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#44
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
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Originally Posted by Timelord
The acid is what etches the galvanized surface to allow the coating to adhere. I went with Ospho on my bus with coating of Rustoleum pro primer and top coat. Worked great.
http://www.corroseal.com/contact/faq.aspx
Can Corroseal be used on galvanized steel?
Since galvanized steel is coating with zinc to prevent corrosion, Corroseal is not effective over non rusted galvanized steel. If the galvanized steel is rusted, do a test application to determine if there is enough rust present for Corroseal to be effective. The Corroseal will not bond properly if the galvanized steel is not sufficiently rusted.
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Then in reality, Corroseal should not be used on any bus that was galvanized. You would end up with spots the paint will not stick to.
Nat
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05-10-2014, 01:01 AM
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#45
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Great info guys, I had a fellow skoolie member try to send me some Ospho from the US, but it was returned to him. I guess I have to hunt some down in Canada.
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05-10-2014, 06:21 AM
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#46
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
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Originally Posted by PowerDaniels
Great info guys, I had a fellow skoolie member try to send me some Ospho from the US, but it was returned to him. I guess I have to hunt some down in Canada.
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Check your local Canadian Tire, Home Depot, Lowe's? If you're close to the border, you could pop across and slip some back. Or if you're close to the coast, the Great Lakes, etc., check your local marine supply house.
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05-10-2014, 06:43 AM
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#47
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerDaniels
Great info guys, I had a fellow skoolie member try to send me some Ospho from the US, but it was returned to him. I guess I have to hunt some down in Canada.
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Check your local Canadian Tire, Home Depot, Lowe's? If you're close to the border, you could pop across and slip some back. Or if you're close to the coast, the Great Lakes, etc., check your local marine supply house.
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I didn't check Lowe's, but I didn't find any at Home Depot. It's not listed on the Canadian Home Depot website either, like it is on the US one. Canadian Tire, Lowes and Rona all come up with nothing online as well.
I unfortunately don't live near the coast or near any border cities in the US, but I appreciate the suggestions!
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05-10-2014, 04:05 PM
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#48
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Check for Jasco. Its another rust converter.
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05-10-2014, 09:09 PM
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#49
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Check for Jasco. Its another rust converter.
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looks like another one that's impossible to find in Canada, at least according to online resources.
Getting kind of ridiculous really!
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05-11-2014, 07:12 AM
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#50
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerDaniels
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Check for Jasco. Its another rust converter.
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looks like another one that's impossible to find in Canada, at least according to online resources.
Getting kind of ridiculous really!
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Cloverdale Paint for Corroseal
Check your local NAPA for Permatex (no link, sorry)
Eastwood will ship their Rust Converter to Canada as well
Edited, removed Rust Check
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05-11-2014, 11:43 AM
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#51
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Rust check is crap
Nat
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"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."
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05-11-2014, 04:53 PM
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#52
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
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Originally Posted by nat_ster
Rust check is crap
Nat
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Yeah, Nat, that's what I read on the Canadian Tire reviews.
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05-12-2014, 04:08 AM
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#53
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerDaniels
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Check for Jasco. Its another rust converter.
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looks like another one that's impossible to find in Canada, at least according to online resources.
Getting kind of ridiculous really!
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Cloverdale Paint for Corroseal
Check your local NAPA for Permatex (no link, sorry)
Eastwood will ship their Rust Converter to Canada as well
Edited, removed Rust Check
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yeah I got a hold of cloverdale about it, but they said they wouldn't get the bigger bottles.
and after reading the whole acidic thing when comparing it to Ospho I don't really want to pay a major premium to buy a bunch of smaller bottles of a lesser quality product.
I found a place I think I can order Ospho from though, it's just not local.
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05-12-2014, 06:15 PM
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#54
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ellijay ga
Posts: 560
Year: 94
Coachwork: b/b
Chassis: tc2000
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
just do the bus,learn by your mistakes,,,,geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
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05-12-2014, 09:14 PM
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#55
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
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Originally Posted by keith
just do the bus,learn by your mistakes,,,,geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
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I disagree, do it right, do your home work and research.
No point in wasting money and learning the hard way.
Nat
__________________
"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."
Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
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05-13-2014, 02:30 AM
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#56
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster
Quote:
Originally Posted by keith
just do the bus,learn by your mistakes,,,,geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
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I disagree, do it right, do your home work and research.
No point in wasting money and learning the hard way.
Nat
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exactly. I don't have an unlimited budget like some people do and I'm already trying to keep the costs as low as possible because I know they're going to add up in the end, so I want to do it right!
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05-15-2014, 09:54 AM
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#57
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ellijay ga
Posts: 560
Year: 94
Coachwork: b/b
Chassis: tc2000
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
all I got to say is,if u got brains not trains up in that head,u can build anything u want with no help............lol
I build mine on a shoe lace and got a dam good bus,looks like a class A motorhome... so use your brains
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06-10-2014, 10:59 PM
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#58
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Year: 2000
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
any other suggestions for grinding away the interior rust before applying the ospho?
I've been using a drill with a grinding wheel because it seems to work a lot better than wirebrushing, but it's still really slow going. anyone else have a better solution?
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06-11-2014, 09:32 AM
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#59
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posts: 45
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All Canadian FE
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
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fly the coop
Fig. to escape; to get out or get away. (Alludes to a chicken escaping from a chicken coop.) I couldn't stand the party, so I flew the coop. The prisoner flew the coop at the first opportunity.
www.flythecoop.ca
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06-11-2014, 08:29 PM
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#60
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Newbie questions about my build!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerDaniels
any other suggestions for grinding away the interior rust before applying the ospho?
I've been using a drill with a grinding wheel because it seems to work a lot better than wirebrushing, but it's still really slow going. anyone else have a better solution?
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Get a angle grinder and a knotted wire wheel for it. Not some little $20 4.5 inch junk, get a real brand, 5 or 7 inch. You will do the whole floor in a few hours.
You can't convert a bus without a angle grinder.
Nat
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