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03-13-2023, 05:24 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: New England
Posts: 122
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Michael Corbier
Chassis: GMC Savana 3500
Engine: 6.5 Diesel
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Over the driver storage problem
I am looking for feedback about making a shelf or cabinet in this space above the driver's seat. I removed the circuit board from the access door, much of the wiring connecting the flasher, the second door and the facing of this panel. It looks like an el shaped bar could anchor the existing metal along the length. I first thought that I could run the remaining wires below the metal bottom piece, but that creates an uneven surface to use for a base to a cabinet.
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03-27-2023, 12:43 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: New England
Posts: 122
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Michael Corbier
Chassis: GMC Savana 3500
Engine: 6.5 Diesel
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shelf progress
This is my initial framework using plywood and 2 . This area is at quite a slant. So the base has to be supported to make a level shelf. The way the wiring passes through this part makes for an awkward transition.
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03-28-2023, 10:11 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 969
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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I think it's a great idea and gives me a few as well. There's a whole lot of wasted space above your head. I'd make a cardboard mockup and then figure out the structural requirements.
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03-28-2023, 04:29 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,311
Coachwork: Integrated Coach Corp.
Chassis: RE-300 42ft
Engine: 466ci
Rated Cap: 90
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Tensile Strength
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corbi
This is my initial framework using plywood and 2 . This area is at quite a slant. So the base has to be supported to make a level shelf. The way the wiring passes through this part makes for an awkward transition.
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A product for builders to consider, when supporting shelves or hanging objects from the ribs.
'Sammys'
aka: Threaded Rod Hangers/ Anchors
(swivel, self-tapping pictured)
I use these at work & home. My handywork, pictured below.

Coop Nesting Boxes
(1/4" rod wood hangers)
(available in a variety of thred sizes for varying framing material)
Use 3/8" or larger for excess weight
I haven't had a need for them on our conversion (yet). Maybe the photos above, & those on google, will provide you some ideas on how to support a load from overhead, using all-thread or threaded hardware fittings.
Okay, one more...
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03-28-2023, 06:36 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 969
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeMac
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A product for builders to consider, when supporting shelves or hanging objects from the ribs.
'Sammys'
aka: Threaded Rod Hangers/ Anchors
(swivel, self-tapping pictured)
I use these at work & home. My handywork, pictured below.

Coop Nesting Boxes
(1/4" rod wood hangers)
(available in a variety of thred sizes for varying framing material)
Use 3/8" or larger for excess weight
I haven't had a need for them on our conversion (yet). Maybe the photos above, & those on google, will provide you some ideas on how to support a load from overhead, using all-thread or threaded hardware fittings.
Okay, one more...

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I've used them before, quite a bit really. I never knew their name, Thanks
Sammys
I'm thinking a star washer under them to help with vibration while rumbling down the road.
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03-28-2023, 08:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensaw
Posts: 877
Year: 1998
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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we put a removable closet rod up over the drivers seat to use for jackets,raincoats and umbrellas that we use often when parked. when we travel we take it down
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03-28-2023, 09:02 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 969
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoore6856
we put a removable closet rod up over the drivers seat to use for jackets,raincoats and umbrellas that we use often when parked. when we travel we take it down
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That's a decent idea too. How's your cat on the road? Sit on the dash, hide in the back?...
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03-28-2023, 11:46 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensaw
Posts: 877
Year: 1998
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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Sleeps in the bed. is not scared just don't seem to mind the house is rolling (sometimes at 75 mph) don't even watch out a window. Just sleeps
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03-29-2023, 12:52 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,142
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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Good start. Is the open face we see in the picture a cutout? How were you thinking of finishing the space?
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04-06-2023, 07:44 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: New England
Posts: 122
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Michael Corbier
Chassis: GMC Savana 3500
Engine: 6.5 Diesel
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Over the driver storage
I worked on the shelf a bit more: made a more accurate angle to the right support block, then glued and screwed them to the plywood. I then realized that there was an extra strip of angle metal used to attach the metal facing. I unscrewed it and relocated to the top and side gaging how this grade if metal could serve to hold the cabinet frame on. It could work. Cutting smaller pieces of it and screwing them at the corners and along each edge. The left side is still open. There isn't an attachment point that I can see. The same is true for the bottom edge. The plywood could be a point of contact. Some kind of hardware?
I'm considering a single sheet of plywood to create the frame, covering the open area below and making the opening for the cabinet door. I am thinking that a piece of utility plywood could line the inside following the bend of the ceiling. Any tips on making a cabinet door? I purchased a router that could come in handy. Sorry, no table saw.
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05-08-2023, 11:51 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,456
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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Hi corbie, we made a bed above the driver, it kind of folds out.
See post 51/52/53 of "elfbus e350" thread, kid has grown bigger so now our younger one sleeps there.. the "door", cover swings out and is supported by chains.
With the door closed it keeps the bedding out of sight.
There should be very little critical wiring above the driver door. Most comes up from the bottom behind the driver side door post.
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You made great progress , good luck.
Johan
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05-25-2023, 10:51 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: New England
Posts: 122
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Michael Corbier
Chassis: GMC Savana 3500
Engine: 6.5 Diesel
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My latest progress as been to cut up the L component of the existing structure and screw them into place around the space above the driver.
These will allow me to attach a plywood cabinet face-frame to them.
I don’t see a way to make attachment points along the bottom side, but I’m hoping that the existing points are strong enough to secure the frame.
I also had to take apart the wall behind the seat to reroute wiring from the space to my switch panel. A new hole was drilled onto to the existing metal compartment.
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05-25-2023, 11:20 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: New England
Posts: 122
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Michael Corbier
Chassis: GMC Savana 3500
Engine: 6.5 Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblack5
Hi corbie, we made a bed above the driver, it kind of folds out.
See post 51/52/53 of "elfbus e350" thread, kid has grown bigger so now our younger one sleeps there.. the "door", cover swings out and is supported by chains.
With the door closed it keeps the bedding out of sight.
There should be very little critical wiring above the driver door. Most comes up from the bottom behind the driver side door post.
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You made great progress , good luck.
Johan
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Thank you for you well wishes Johan. I didn't realize how much you posted on the Elf Bus. It has taken a while for me to remove and reroute some of the wiring and the circuit board from that area. Hopefully I'll have some new usefull storage there and move on to the next area. I notice that Elf is also a M. Corbeil body like mine.
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