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06-08-2017, 03:49 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 2
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Passenger seat
We are new to this site. We are converting a 1993 Blue Bird cabover school bus. We are curious as to how others have dealt with the issue of the passenger seat because of the entrance into the bus. I would like to set parallel to my husband. If you have and ideas or suggestions, we would appreciate hearing your story. Bill and Maxine
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06-08-2017, 04:36 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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We put a seat as close as we could. Its a conversion van seat that spins so its great for talking to passengers too. Still easy to walk in too.
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06-08-2017, 07:59 PM
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#3
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Where the road takes me
Posts: 191
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466e
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It's crazy, but you could always put a bus seat up there and then u can sit together real close = )
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06-08-2017, 08:04 PM
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#4
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 2
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the engine cover is there,
thanks
willy
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06-08-2017, 08:11 PM
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#5
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Terra Alta, WV
Posts: 153
Chassis: Sold
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I'm going to copy what Wanderlodge did. Put a door over the stairwell and allow that to be where the feet for the passinger seat goes. http://www.merlowre.com/images/95bb04.jpg
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06-08-2017, 08:44 PM
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#6
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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my passenger seat is mounted with a extended slide, moves almost parallel with the drivers seat, I have wheel well cover as well. pics are in build
gbstewart
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06-09-2017, 08:28 AM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by jctrembly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
my passenger seat is mounted with a extended slide, moves almost parallel with the drivers seat, I have wheel well cover as well. pics are in build
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Hmm, I do NOT like the idea of a cantilevered seat. Torque during a wreck ... no beuno. A few people have a false floor cover for the stairs. I'm thinking do the false floor with something heavy like 3/8" plate. Pin lock it in 2 or 3 places so it can't go anywhere and then use regular floor tracks (hinged or gaped) bolted to the plate for the seat to slide out on. Frame the whole thing in 1" square tube under the plate, some diagonals for cross bracing, etc. Could even use 2 sets of seat rails to get the seat completely out of the way to fold the false floor backwards and flat when not in use.
Hmm, I'm going to have to give this some thought. Take some measurements, mock something up. I could even pull a seat out of the Dakota for shits and giggles.
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06-09-2017, 09:17 AM
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#8
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Terra Alta, WV
Posts: 153
Chassis: Sold
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Yup, false floor over the stairwell, hinged at the front of the bus so the "door" opens towards the windshield. In the Wanderlodge they use a air cyclinder to lift the door, or just do it by hand. I'm thinking of moving the current door air cyclinder there.
The seat is mounted firmly to the bus.
For me, that was one of the great ideas I got from Wanderlodge.
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06-09-2017, 10:04 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jctrembly
Yup, false floor over the stairwell, hinged at the front of the bus so the "door" opens towards the windshield. In the Wanderlodge they use a air cyclinder to lift the door, or just do it by hand. I'm thinking of moving the current door air cyclinder there.
The seat is mounted firmly to the bus.
For me, that was one of the great ideas I got from Wanderlodge.
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I think I'd hing it the opposite way so as I don't catch an edge/corner while hauling groceries or my butt in/out of the bus. An air cylinder would be nice but would need a safety interlock else stuff is going to break or be an ejection seat. Wait a minute, ... hmmm. I told you not to get so mouthy!!
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06-09-2017, 01:13 PM
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#10
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: So Ill
Posts: 267
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Allison AT545
Rated Cap: 71
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I was thinking of doing the same, with a false floor over the stairwell, and a passenger seat that folds up for storage out of the way, mounted to the wall by the stairwell. Alternatively, I was considering pulling the back bench seat from my minivan, and using that as my driver/passenger seat. Not which would work better, something to be figured out when I have an actual bus!
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06-09-2017, 01:31 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by DreamWeaverBus
Alternatively, I was considering pulling the back bench seat from my minivan, and using that as my driver/passenger seat.
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For now, I have the front bus bench there. I need to go RV junkyard diving. Probably do that for a couple of hours on Sat. Google satellite shows one with a bunch of buses near me. I dunno what they'll actually have now.
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06-10-2017, 06:18 AM
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#12
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
We put a seat as close as we could. Its a conversion van seat that spins so its great for talking to passengers too. Still easy to walk in too.
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How did you deal with seat belts?
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06-12-2017, 07:23 AM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by Njsurf73
How did you deal with seat belts?
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Seat belt should be easy. First window frame between window and door and the other end belted thru the floor (mirror image of the driver's side). I already bought two new seat belts. Just need to install them. Of course having new seats first would be nice.
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06-12-2017, 07:49 AM
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#14
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Seat belt should be easy. First window frame between window and door and the other end belted thru the floor (mirror image of the driver's side). I already bought two new seat belts. Just need to install them. Of course having new seats first would be nice.
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I have been looking at GMC Sierra seats because they have the seat belts built into them. That way I can position to see a little off the wall if I had to or possibly put it on a track that can swing and fold away... But I am a long way from that we will see. Sometimes I forget about kiss.
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06-12-2017, 09:12 AM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
I have been looking at GMC Sierra seats because they have the seat belts built into them. That way I can position to see a little off the wall if I had to or possibly put it on a track that can swing and fold away... But I am a long way from that we will see. Sometimes I forget about kiss.
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If/when, pics.
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