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01-30-2019, 12:06 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Reading, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24
Year: 2006
Chassis: International IC RE300
Engine: International 7.6L diesel
Rated Cap: 33,000
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Patching bolt holes in floor?
Hey. So I removed every last bolt in the floor and the rails( which was a b****h) but it’s all clear. Just wondering best way to remove some excess surface rust. Wire brush on a grinder kind of works but not that great. Also, I’ve heard a couple ideas of how to really seal all the holes in the floor. Epoxy, epoxy with metal under it, caulk. I’m really not sure. I have to wait till spring so it settles right but just looking to hear
Some more ideas or success stories of the best way to really seal these hundreds of bolt holes. Thanks
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01-30-2019, 12:15 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 9,364
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Once you're through with the wire brush and grinder, spray the floor with a rust converter such as Home Depots Prep & Etch, which I believe has been renamed Concrete and Metal Prep, or Ospho which is twice the price for the same product. Use a rust preventive primer. There are many methods for filling seat bolt holes. I'll probably use the epoxy and pennies, because have a whole tub full of them.
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01-30-2019, 01:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,385
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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I did petty much what Marc described.
Wire brushed, swept, sprayed Prep and etch.
When that dried out, I found a chalky residue left on the floor. With a little effort it came off. I wire brushed the floor againand swept. Then I cleaned the floor with a TSP solution.
Then I rolled a good coat of Rusty metal primer.
Next will be covering all of the screw holes with adhesive flashing from Home Depot. Then I will roll a coat of Rustolium paint.
Many way to skin a cat
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01-30-2019, 01:01 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Unity, NH
Posts: 439
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
Rated Cap: 29,000
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After grinding, rust converting and priming our floor I used a tube of windshield goop (black) from the local auto parts store. About $30 for one tube which filled all the holes from 8 rows of chair rails and the plywood in a 16.5' section.
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01-30-2019, 01:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Unless you are gonna weld 'em...I would suggest small pieces (1"x1") of fairly light sheet metal (at least 20 ga.) affixed with a healthy dose of OEM grade seam sealer.
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04-02-2020, 08:36 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Norfolk, VA
Posts: 67
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Freightliner
Chassis: S2
Engine: 6.4 MBE 906
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Figured I'd bring this back to the top..since I have a similar question. Once the deck has been painted and sealed, for those of you that used framing along with rigid foam insulation on the deck. How did you seal the holes that were created when you attached the framing to the deck? ie: A nail or screw through the wood through the newly preserved metal deck.
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04-02-2020, 08:57 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 4,560
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoxieLuvr2015
Figured I'd bring this back to the top..since I have a similar question. Once the deck has been painted and sealed, for those of you that used framing along with rigid foam insulation on the deck. How did you seal the holes that were created when you attached the framing to the deck? ie: A nail or screw through the wood through the newly preserved metal deck.
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I had the same concerns about how to firmly attach my "joists" to the metal floor without using glue and without putting additional holes in the floor. My original plan was to weld L-clips onto the floor and then screw these to the sides of the joists, but I'm now planning to weld bolts (with the heads cut off) to the floor and screw down 2" pieces of dowel rod through the foam instead of using full joists.
This is an experiment I did for this technique: https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/r...tml#post369829 . I'm going to be putting in the subfloor for my dropped floor this way this afternoon (hopefully, I still need to fabricate a tool for screwing the dowels down onto the posts - the angle grinder wrench did not work very well for this).
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04-02-2020, 09:34 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,500
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoxieLuvr2015
Figured I'd bring this back to the top..since I have a similar question. Once the deck has been painted and sealed, for those of you that used framing along with rigid foam insulation on the deck. How did you seal the holes that were created when you attached the framing to the deck? ie: A nail or screw through the wood through the newly preserved metal deck.
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The self tapping screws used 18 years ago to hold down the plywood floor on my rusty bus are still in good shape after being allowed to get wet from leaking windows and whatever...
Assuming you plan to keep your bus dryer inside than the average school bus the same method should be good for 30 or 40 years...
Use stainless steel tappers and if you really wanna go overkill (imho) followup underneath with a spraycan of rustoleum gutter-seal. It's very similar to rubberized automotive undercoating but it's cheaper AND has UV resistance to boot! A neighbor of mine that restored ol' Fords turned me on to this. Good enuf for '60s Mustangs is more than good enuf for me...
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