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Old 03-05-2020, 01:11 AM   #21
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We have an exceptional relationship with the parts manager. He let us buy them for $650.00 each. They are now about $900.00 each.
That's not as a bad as I thought. Thanks, I'll put this on the list of optional wants.
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Old 03-05-2020, 01:36 AM   #22
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That's not as a bad as I thought. Thanks, I'll put this on the list of optional wants.
My pleasure!


Most folks fall in love with the seats when they see them in person... and have a chance to sit in them, adjust the arm rests, recline, etc.
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Old 03-05-2020, 02:32 AM   #23
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We have an exceptional relationship with the parts manager. He let us buy them for $650.00 each. They are now about $900.00 each.
my local shop has them for $450-$700.
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Old 03-05-2020, 02:33 AM   #24
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That's not as a bad as I thought. Thanks, I'll put this on the list of optional wants.
Shop around. You can get brand new Bostrom or Sears for similar money.
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Old 03-05-2020, 05:51 AM   #25
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In my area you can get them for free or $50-$100 for slightly used ones.



There's a lot of trucking companies here that are always swapping and throwing out seats. Lots of them are still in really good shape and even the junkiest semi seat is way better than anything in a bus.
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Old 03-05-2020, 06:04 AM   #26
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We have an exceptional relationship with the parts manager. He let us buy them for $650.00 each. They are now about $900.00 each.
Damn, and I thought my transit van seats were expensive ($200).
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Old 03-05-2020, 06:43 AM   #27
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That looks very doable. I don't think playing musical chairs with the passenger would be that big of a deal, no more often than it would be necessary.

What is the panel that the seat is bolted to? It's hard for me to tell how that fits in. Is it the same height as the plywood behind and the floorboard in front of the seat?
It's bolted to the original floor. We removed the rubber and plywood from the rest of the bus, but didn't touch the flooring in the front. The new flooring is raised about 3/4" above the height of the stock flooring with insulation/sub-floor/laminate.

I also like the quick connects they use for the air lines so it was real easy to T into the line for the driver seat.
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:33 AM   #28
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Here ya go ... note that our seats are air ride and swivel too. Thus, we can swing them around to face the back and make up the front part of our living room (once we have that done).


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Once we move the door back, we will reposition the navigator's seat in and forward a bit.
Damn, can't wait to see your bus!
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Old 03-05-2020, 01:16 PM   #29
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Damn, can't wait to see your bus!
It will be fun to have the side-by-side comparison of the twins!
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Old 03-05-2020, 04:13 PM   #30
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We installed a second air seat right next to the driver seat on our dognose bus. We now have a wall directly behind both of them. There is enough room between the passenger seat and dog house to get to the driver seat, but I can certainly see how a flip up base would be nice.

Do you have any pics of how that seat is bolted on the underside? Is that bolted through to a plate on the underside of the crossmembers, or just bolted to the flat floor? I'm going to be installing my Ford transit vans seat up front pretty soon, but I haven't worked out how to do it yet.
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Old 03-05-2020, 08:50 PM   #31
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Do you have any pics of how that seat is bolted on the underside? Is that bolted through to a plate on the underside of the crossmembers, or just bolted to the flat floor? I'm going to be installing my Ford transit vans seat up front pretty soon, but I haven't worked out how to do it yet.
On our install, they are mounted through the flooring and through the floor sheet metal with large bolts and 1/4" thick (I seem to recall 2"x4") pieces of flat stock as washers on the rear bolts and thick washers on he front bolts. I simply duplicated the way it was done from the factory.


I do not have any photos of the underside ... but if you want some, I will do so tomorrow ... you only need to ask.
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We have an exceptional relationship with the parts manager. He let us buy them for $650.00 each. They are now about $900.00 each.
My earlier post was off the top of my head. I just looked at the invoice. We paid $605.00 each ... their retail list price was $1,500.96.
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On our install, they are mounted through the flooring and through the floor sheet metal with large bolts and 1/4" thick (I seem to recall 2"x4") pieces of flat stock as washers on the rear bolts and thick washers on he front bolts. I simply duplicated the way it was done from the factory.


I do not have any photos of the underside ... but if you want some, I will do so tomorrow ... you only need to ask.
I'm asking! But definitely no hurry.
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Old 03-05-2020, 10:29 PM   #34
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That's a possibility, although as someone who's not a welder, that's just more work and more $$$ I'd have to farm out. At this point I'm trying to take in all solutions and hold off on pursuing a solution until I've gathered lots of info.
I'm not a welder either, but relocating the door might not be as expensive as you'd think. I paid around $160 to have the stepwell fabbed, then bolted it to the floor, skirts, and rub rail.....it's been solid as a rock since Day One.

Cut out the new opening with an angle grinder, and used my ceiling panels to skin over the original door opening.
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My earlier post was off the top of my head. I just looked at the invoice. We paid $605.00 each ... their retail list price was $1,500.96.
Whoa! $1500 would be a total rip off.
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Even $600 per is a lot...again lots of smaller trucking companies on my local facebook marketplace are selling new take out air seats for $100 - 200. Used ones are free or $50.

Sometimes I see the flippers that try and sell them for $500+ and they always end up negotiating after they sit on marketplace for months.
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I'm asking! But definitely no hurry.
This is the underside whith the front and rear bolts/nuts for the driver seat. These bolts hold the mounting plate down through the flooring.


20200306_140459 Seat Bolts Underside.jpg


The seat attaches to the mounting plate. This is the old seatplaced behing the original for a passenger. You can see the mounting plate and the bolts.


20190927_160441 Original Driver Seat - Side.jpg


Sice my wife wanted a shoulder harness, I fabricated and mounted this bracket to the ceiling.




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Even $600 per is a lot...again lots of smaller trucking companies on my local facebook marketplace are selling new take out air seats for $100 - 200. Used ones are free or $50.

Sometimes I see the flippers that try and sell them for $500+ and they always end up negotiating after they sit on marketplace for months.
Yes, they are expensive. They are the seats that replace those that the truckers remove. They have high back full reclining backs, fully adjustable arm rests to hold your arms in the reclined position, air adjustable lumbar support, and they swivel 180 degrees. Did I mention they are air ride seats?


We figured that since we would be spendingalot oftime inthese seat,it was worth getting top-of-the-line seats. We are using the bus to transport our household goods from Texas to Florida. Many such trips are involved.
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Yes, they are expensive. They are the seats that replace those that the truckers remove. They have high back full reclining backs, fully adjustable arm rests to hold your arms in the reclined position, air adjustable lumbar support, and they swivel 180 degrees. Did I mention they are air ride seats?


We figured that since we would be spendingalot oftime inthese seat,it was worth getting top-of-the-line seats. We are using the bus to transport our household goods from Texas to Florida. Many such trips are involved.
The free one I got has all the features you mentioned except for swivel which I can add for 20 bucks using a swivel kit that Northern Tool sells.
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