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06-18-2018, 05:37 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 21
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Rear Engine Compartments
Hey everyone. Got a question that I just can't find an answer for. Our bus is a rear engine build but has two triangular spaces that extend into the rear of the bus. (See attached picture). Looking toward the back, the left space is empty, there is no wiring or hoses that are in the compartment. The right side has some components behind it. We would like to cut out the portion that comes into the bus and sheet metal over it to make a flat space for our matress. Is there any reason we should not do this?
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06-18-2018, 05:47 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 13
Chassis: 12m (40') coach
Engine: Mitsubishi 16L V8
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On my Mitsubishi bus one side is the air intake. I'm thinking to reroute mine for the same reason. Will probably go straight out from the top of the filter to outside air. Following....
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06-18-2018, 09:13 PM
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#3
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: in the bus on the road
Posts: 529
Year: 1998
Coachwork: myself
Chassis: amtran
Engine: international dt466e allison md 3060
Rated Cap: 13 ton or so says the tit
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Mine has vents on the outside and i doubt that i could remove them because of restricted air flow. If you still get good air I'm sure they could go
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06-25-2018, 09:05 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by toomanydogs
Hey everyone. Got a question that I just can't find an answer for. Our bus is a rear engine build but has two triangular spaces that extend into the rear of the bus. (See attached picture). Looking toward the back, the left space is empty, there is no wiring or hoses that are in the compartment. The right side has some components behind it. We would like to cut out the portion that comes into the bus and sheet metal over it to make a flat space for our matress. Is there any reason we should not do this?
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Didn't notice your bus make. Mine is a Blue Bird and there is no passenger side intrusion. Drivers's side has louvered sheet metal and is air intake as mentioned by Stephen. That said, I don't know if I'll relocate mine of not since mine don't come in anywhere near as far as yours. I also do not have any "components" behind mine. I have pics of mine somewhere I think but don't feel like downloading them from google at the moment.
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06-28-2018, 05:53 PM
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#5
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 20
Year: 2003
Engine: Cummins 5.9
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We have a similar question.......
So we are about to order a roof raise kit from Chris with fab lab in Colorado. But we need to decide on the final height of the raise. Here are the issues. It is our understanding that it is most economical to do a 20in roof raise, because the hat channel comes in equal proportions of 20in, but we were considering doing a higher raise (24in) because we are concerned with having enough head room with the raised loft bed in the back of the bus. There is this black covered piece (In the picture) that we have to either go on top of our around somehow. We were told it is a a cover over the intake? I guess it could be modified, but I'd like to know more about it. What's under there?
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06-28-2018, 06:21 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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On my Thomas, the passenger side is the air intake for the Catterpiggle. I think the driver's side is intake for the radiator.
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06-29-2018, 07:41 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
On my Thomas, the passenger side is the air intake for the Catterpiggle. I think the driver's side is intake for the radiator.
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Capt,
Catterpiggle <--
Katie,
Blue Bird is driver's side air intake for engine, passenger side doesn't exist.
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06-29-2018, 10:00 AM
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#8
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 20
Year: 2003
Engine: Cummins 5.9
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intake
Mine is a bluebird 2003 and i think my intake is on the passenger's side. If the intake is under this black cover it's on the passenger's side. check out my attached pic. Do you know if there is a way to move this? or modify it?
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06-29-2018, 10:56 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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What brand of bus body might be helpful to know what it is were are talking about.
If there is intrusions on both sides I would suggest one side is air intake for the engine and the other side is air intake for the radiator.
Unless you re-route the air intake for the engine you won't be able to move that.
If the other side is air intake for the radiator you won't be able to move that either.
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06-29-2018, 11:14 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Posts: 20
Year: 2003
Engine: Cummins 5.9
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there is only that one . its a bluebird all american.
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06-29-2018, 12:24 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by katiearnold
there is only that one . its a bluebird all american.
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Vastly different than the '99 model. Mine is all sheet metal and takes up the entire window cut-out. My radiator is on the driver's side but it's the intake for the engine not radiator (I think, I'd have to double check). The radiator sits lower and is behind a screen panel. Passenger side where yours is at is the hydraulic oil reservoir.
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06-29-2018, 12:32 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,481
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Does yours look like this?
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06-29-2018, 12:38 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Does yours look like this?
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'02 on the left
'99 on the right
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06-29-2018, 12:47 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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'99 BB
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