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04-04-2019, 01:26 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 573
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Removing dashboard switches
Has anyone done this? I wanna try and reupholster some dash parts but the area where the switches are makes it kinda easy to remove the knobs but all the switches have multiple wires connected to them that seem to require unplugging and I know I'm not gonna remember where to plug the wires back.
Also, has anyone completely replaced all the switches with newer third-party ones such as the ones in the link below or even just the OEM stock ones
https://www.amazon.com/Marine-Vehicl...%2C247&sr=8-14
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04-04-2019, 01:34 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Take lots of detailed, close up photos of everything before unplugging stuff. You'll be surprised how easy it is after referencing the pics.
I like that panel, may have to get me one.
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04-04-2019, 02:01 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 573
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Take lots of detailed, close up photos of everything before unplugging stuff. You'll be surprised how easy it is after referencing the pics.
I like that panel, may have to get me one.
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Actually, I did that but don't feel confident in it. I can only move the panel out so far from the dash with all the wires attached. Gonna head over to the bus and take another look.
Thanks
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04-04-2019, 06:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
Posts: 483
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
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I re-arranged the switches on our bus since they were scattered all over the board. It was a pain removing the switches from the individual panels. There are two clips you have press in on the back side while pushing it through. When two switches are next to each other it's real tight. There probably is a better tool to use I ended up using a paint can pry tool and some small jewelers screwdrivers. I broke some of the tabs off the switch blanks as you can see in this picture, but even with 2 tabs, at least they stay in place.
As for the wiring, as noted before, take pictures. I also tried to work on one switch at a time and then re-connected the wiring once I removed the switch.
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04-06-2019, 04:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 573
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Thanks for the tips but my panel looks different and it seems my switches are singular and somehow attached to the panel. Here is a pic
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04-06-2019, 04:39 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adic27
Thanks for the tips but my panel looks different and it seems my switches are singular and somehow attached to the panel. Here is a pic
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There is a spring clip on each end of the switch, they just push in and snap into place. You can carefully pry them out.
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04-07-2019, 04:25 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 573
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
There is a spring clip on each end of the switch, they just push in and snap into place. You can carefully pry them out.
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But, even if I do pry them out there's still the wires connected to them. Here is a pic of the wires. There is more than what shows in the image. Each switch has multiple wires and that's what would make it difficult to plug them back correctly
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04-07-2019, 04:54 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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No need to undo any wires at all. In your 2nd pic you can see the back of the switch, half has writing printed on and the front is solid black. The switch comes apart there. Pull your switch out of the front of the dash, disconnect the switch, reinstall switch on back side of panel. Repeat for each switch. Remove dash, reupholster, reverse this sequence.
Your switch is slightly different than mine, they don't just unplug, you have to release the praying mantis looking lock on top of your switch to release the switch.
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04-07-2019, 08:52 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: the Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 258
Year: 1997
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 466e
Rated Cap: its Yuge
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I am going thru this process now and will try and to take a pic of what I have done. Yea switches pop right out with a little help from a flat screwdriver
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04-08-2019, 02:48 AM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MambaJack
I am going thru this process now and will try and to take a pic of what I have done. Yea switches pop right out with a little help from a flat screwdriver
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Do not apply too much torque with the screw driver. The switches and the flanges that hold them in are plastic. They can all be removed by hand without the use of tools. It may take a little practice to grip the flanges in the right spot (real close to the top of the switch) and squeeze while pushing the the switch out of the panel. I have big hands (not extremely thick ones) and can manage to get them out fine.
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04-08-2019, 03:00 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: the Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 258
Year: 1997
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 466e
Rated Cap: its Yuge
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Work in progress
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04-09-2019, 11:26 AM
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#12
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 573
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Actually got all mines removed from the panel except one. I think its the plastic being over 20 years old thats making it difficult to get them out. For the most part, I have to use a flathead screwdriver to push the flap down. Seems the proper way to remove them is by squeezing the top and bottom flap on one side and pushing it through then repeat on other side going back and forth til its out. As I pulled each one out I immediately put the wires back as suggested by ermracing. Half the switches had 5 wires in them.
Thanks guys!
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