Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-07-2021, 12:33 AM   #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 2
Removing the side pop out Stop sign and front pop out fence thingy

If I remove and unplug the side pop out stop sign and the front hinged fence thingy - will a secret cut off stop the bus running without them?
I am a total newbie . So far one seat removed ( angle grinder on four bolts + wrench on two bolts .
Another 25 seats to go !
Who buys bus seats? Do they have any value ?
Thanks for suggestions .
Roblat1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2021, 04:56 AM   #2
Bus Nut
 
Truthseeker4449's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 487
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas x2
Chassis: HDX/MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126 x2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblat1 View Post
If I remove and unplug the side pop out stop sign and the front hinged fence thingy - will a secret cut off stop the bus running without them?
I am a total newbie . So far one seat removed ( angle grinder on four bolts + wrench on two bolts .
Another 25 seats to go !
Who buys bus seats? Do they have any value ?
Thanks for suggestions .
I've not heard of a stop sign or crossing arm causing a no start, but it would be nice and easy to test if you require the peace of mind. Simply unplug them, then attempt to start the bus and move it back and forth. If it moves, then you're good.

If you take the time to strip the foam and upholstery, a scrap yard will usually accept them. Many landfills will accept the seats as is, but they're certainly not buying them off of you. A busload of seats weighs around 1,000 pounds, give or take.
Truthseeker4449 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2021, 08:41 AM   #3
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truthseeker4449 View Post
I've not heard of a stop sign or crossing arm causing a no start, but it would be nice and easy to test if you require the peace of mind. Simply unplug them, then attempt to start the bus and move it back and forth. If it moves, then you're good.

If you take the time to strip the foam and upholstery, a scrap yard will usually accept them. Many landfills will accept the seats as is, but they're certainly not buying them off of you. A busload of seats weighs around 1,000 pounds, give or take.
Thank you . Makes sense . R.
Roblat1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2021, 09:26 AM   #4
Bus Nut
 
Mountain Gnome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 970
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC1000 HandyBus
Engine: 5.9L 24V-L6 Cummins ISB
Rated Cap: 26 foot
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblat1 View Post
Who buys bus seats? Do they have any value ?
I just took mine to Good Will. They even helped me unload them. I was in Tucson, where I got my bus. Folks from south of the border will love them for their 40-year old transit buses they keep running down there. The labor in demoing them for scrap metal is hardly worth the cash.
__________________
Look at the Sky; look at the River. Isn't it Good?
Mountain Gnome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2021, 11:36 AM   #5
Bus Nut
 
Phatman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Brazoria County, Texas
Posts: 721
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 32 Passenger
Mine took about 30 minutes to pop the upholstery off and made enough of the scrap metal to go and have lunch. The only issue I had in removing the stop signs was plugging up the pneumatic air line and patching the outer shell hole.
Phatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2021, 11:39 AM   #6
Bus Geek
 
o1marc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 9,528
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
Scrap metal is up right now at $8/100lb. It was as low as $2.50 a few months back. Salvage makes them worth more than garbage. The sheet metal backs can be cut out used for patches .
__________________
I Thank God That He Gifted Me with Common Sense
o1marc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2021, 03:02 PM   #7
Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 214
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
I pulled my stop sign off last summer and it didn't affect starting.
Oldyeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 10:25 AM   #8
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 11
I just removed the stop sign and the swing arm system on the front bumper. Bus started without any issues. However I am confused about plugging the pneumatic lines, what exactly do I plug those with?
Skool Munkee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 01:24 PM   #9
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,004
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skool Munkee View Post
I just removed the stop sign and the swing arm system on the front bumper. Bus started without any issues. However I am confused about plugging the pneumatic lines, what exactly do I plug those with?
I never plugged mine and it doesn't seem to have been a problem. Do you hear hissing from the cut hose?
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 01:27 PM   #10
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 11
I have not heard any hissing from the hose, but was curious if this is something that can cause potential issues down the road.

All the posts I searched says plug the line, but wasn't even sure what that involves.
Skool Munkee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 01:37 PM   #11
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,004
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skool Munkee View Post
I have not heard any hissing from the hose, but was curious if this is something that can cause potential issues down the road.

All the posts I searched says plug the line, but wasn't even sure what that involves.
Maybe the hose is only pressurized when the sign is extended? Try hitting your flasher switch and see if that makes air come out.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 01:45 PM   #12
Bus Nut
 
johnbloem1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Montana/Texas
Posts: 646
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Crown by Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 230 HP DT 466e/MT 643!
Rated Cap: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis View Post
Maybe the hose is only pressurized when the sign is extended? Try hitting your flasher switch and see if that makes air come out.
Correct. On mine, there is only air to that line when the sign is activated.
However, it would be a good idea to cap the line to prevent dirt/debris/bugs from getting in there...

John
johnbloem1974 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 02:03 PM   #13
Bus Nut
 
Phatman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Brazoria County, Texas
Posts: 721
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 32 Passenger
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skool Munkee View Post
I just removed the stop sign and the swing arm system on the front bumper. Bus started without any issues. However I am confused about plugging the pneumatic lines, what exactly do I plug those with?
Usually a 10/24 or 1/4 20 machine screw screwed into the end does fine.
Phatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 02:56 PM   #14
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatman View Post
Usually a 10/24 or 1/4 20 machine screw screwed into the end does fine.
Great thank you for the information, I really appreciate your help, as I just couldn't figure out if I needed to buy some special part to cap the lines.
Skool Munkee is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:13 PM   #15
Bus Nut
 
Truthseeker4449's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 487
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas x2
Chassis: HDX/MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126 x2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skool Munkee View Post
Great thank you for the information, I really appreciate your help, as I just couldn't figure out if I needed to buy some special part to cap the lines.
The proper part you're looking for is a push connect cap in whatever size line you have. Like this,

https://www.amazon.com/Connect-Tubin.../dp/B00L9BUDQA

Hydraulic stores will likely carry this fitting, I know my local Colliflower does.

However I agree something shoved into line will suffice, especially if you have no plans to reuse the line in the near future. I did not cap any of my lines since I do not plan to reuse them and removed the constant air supply and power sources to the solenoids that fed them. I haven't gotten around to removing the solenoids and their lines yet.
Truthseeker4449 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:41 PM   #16
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truthseeker4449 View Post
The proper part you're looking for is a push connect cap in whatever size line you have. Like this,

https://www.amazon.com/Connect-Tubin.../dp/B00L9BUDQA

Hydraulic stores will likely carry this fitting, I know my local Colliflower does.

However I agree something shoved into line will suffice, especially if you have no plans to reuse the line in the near future. I did not cap any of my lines since I do not plan to reuse them and removed the constant air supply and power sources to the solenoids that fed them. I haven't gotten around to removing the solenoids and their lines yet.
Thank you, I don't know what sort of things I could do with these lines, so maybe I will just keep them plugged for now.

Is there any benefit to removing the solenoids and the lines?
Skool Munkee is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
removing bus bits

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×