Rivet Confusion

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by Marceps

The riverter banman linked ratchets mandrels really well. Pneumatic riveters are nice to have but not necessary for 3/16" stainless.

Unless you're installing 200 rivets at a time, your hand will thank you.

[PNW_Steve]

Originally Posted by Marceps

The riverter banman linked ratchets mandrels really well. Pneumatic riveters are nice to have but not necessary for 3/16" stainless.

Speak for yourself

I wound up with two air riveters. One 1/4" and one 3/6".

It took me about a dozen 3/16" rivets in and my tendinitis shut me down.

If you are considering doing a roof raise I would recommend a pneumatic rivet gun.

[banman]

Originally Posted by PNW_Steve

Speak for yourself

I wound up with two air riveters. One 1/4" and one 3/6".

It took me about a dozen 3/16" rivets in and my tendinitis shut me down.

If you are considering doing a roof raise I would recommend a pneumatic rivet gun.

Oh absolutely! If you're doing a large amt of metal work at once like re-installing the roof or wall panels you want power tools! pneumatic or electric --

[randemonium]

Is 6mm a thing for rivets?

[o1marc]

Originally Posted by randemonium

Is 6mm a thing for rivets?

Rivets come in numerous sizes of SAE and Metric. 6mm is slightly less than 1/4". They make a 6.3mmm rivet, which is 1/4"

[WyldemanofWyldewood]

How many ss rivets do you have? Interested

[PNW_Steve]

Originally Posted by Marceps

The riverter banman linked ratchets mandrels really well. Pneumatic riveters are nice to have but not necessary for 3/16" stainless.

Speak for yourself

40 or 50 - 3/16" stainless steel closed end rivets with the ratcheting manual tool might be ok but the number of rivets I set justified buying not one but two pneumatic rivet guns.

[Wyldeman]

ok first off i need to know the best pop rivet gun that doesn't give me trouble.
Second question is will i need a person on the inside with a bucking bar like repairing a boat?
I don't have much help so getting someone to hold the backing bar will be a chore.
Third... where is the best place to buy the rivets as im figuring on about 5k.

Thank You all for the abundant knowledge

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman

ok first off i need to know the best pop rivet gun that doesn't give me trouble.
Second question is will i need a person on the inside with a bucking bar like repairing a boat?
I don't have much help so getting someone to hold the backing bar will be a chore.
Third... where is the best place to buy the rivets as im figuring on about 5k.

Thank You all for the abundant knowledge

Harbor Freight 3/16" and 1/4" pneumatic riveters are cheap and get the job done. I'd get (and did get) the 1/4" one since it can also do 3/16".

You don't need a bucking bar at all for pop rivets.

www.rivetsonline.com

[brokedown]

I use the HF air rivet gun, can't beat it for the price. i got the bigger one that can do 1/4 inch rivets even though they're impossible to find locally.. Currently waiting on a shipment in fact.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by brokedown

I use the HF air rivet gun, can't beat it for the price. i got the bigger one that can do 1/4 inch rivets even though they're impossible to find locally.. Currently waiting on a shipment in fact.

I'd have GIVEN you as many as you wanted Josh!

[Wyldeman]

Some people say they didnt like the HF rivet guns....Is there a reason that you might know of? i will be ready in a few weeks so i want all my ducks in a row..

[EastCoastCB]

like all hf tools some just randomly suck.

[brokedown]

The only gripe I have with mine is the pin for the lever fell out at some point. I shoved a rivet stem in there and went on with my life.

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman

Some people say they didnt like the HF rivet guns....Is there a reason that you might know of? i will be ready in a few weeks so i want all my ducks in a row..

You often have to double-chooch each 3/16" rivet (and always with the 1/4" rivets) to get the mandrel to snap off, so it can be slow-going (I don't know if this is because of the gun or my compressor). For me, though, everything else about riveting (fitting, drilling, glopping etc.) is so time-consuming that having to pull the trigger twice for each rivet is not a huge problem.

[brokedown]

While you do typically have to pull the trigger multiple times, I don't think it's a negative. it has x amount of travel per pull.

[PNW_Steve]

Interesting.........

I have had a few rivets that took two pulls with the HF rivet guns but not very many.

They are definitely a low end option but I have been surprised at how well they work.

I bought two 1/4" guns and changed one of them to 3/16". If one does I can still use both 3/16" and 1/4" rivets.

I used mostly 3/16" rivets but wherever a rivet hole got reamed a bit I upsized to 1/4". It was handy not having to change gun setup to switch between rivet sizes.

[Wyldeman]

do we have to use stainless steel rivets everywhere? on some of my other stuff that i had used stainless the paint NEVER sticks for a long time. ANy advice will be GREATLY appreciated....

[o1marc]

Depends on the grip length of the rivet on how many pulls it takes. Gun is set up for short length.

[PNW_Steve]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman

do we have to use stainless steel rivets everywhere? on some of my other stuff that i had used stainless the paint NEVER sticks for a long time. ANy advice will be GREATLY appreciated....

You have two options. Stainless Steel or aluminum.

SS work great in our application. Aluminum rivets in steel can be a problem due to galvanic corrosion.

Someone posted in a other thread stating that the corrosion issue was an old wives tale.

I beg to differ.

My Bluebird had some interior rework done using aluminum rivets. I used a air chisel to remove the interior rivets. The heads of the steel rivets cut off clean. The badly corroded aluminum rivets didn't cut off. They smeared like putty.

I