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Old 06-19-2019, 08:47 AM   #61
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Welding class is $480 and that's for (theoretically) 43 classroom/lab hours.
What?!!? Maybe I need to double check the CC here. Co-worker kid here took one. I want to say it was at least double that. Covered MIG, TIG, and stick. I don't remember if it came with a cert at the end of it or not. If it comes with a cert I understand the price. But I don't need/want TIG and stick much less a cert.



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Teacher is a welding engineer that oversees a welding/machining shop for a nuclear power plant, so he seems to know his stuff.




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So far I've just been trying to run straight beads since I'm a total newb, but I hope to someday graduate to sticking two pieces of metal together.
Fairly easy but then I've no idea how well they are stuck together. Doesn't come apart after beating it with a hammer.


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I'm down for Friday. I may come in my bus for the hell of it.
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:57 AM   #62
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I'm down for Friday. I may come in my bus for the hell of it.
If you do come down, use the Rte 715 Gate. The GPS will take you to the Rte 22 Gate if you're driving a 40 foot school bus!! Trucks (large) are only allowed thru the 715 Gate even tho the clearance is 14 1/2 ft by 10 ft at the 22 Gate. Visitors' Center is at the 715 Gate and is open until 6 pm. You'll need DL and registration. After 6 pm you just drive thru the gate with a DL. Makes no sense but there's the right way, wrong way, and the Army way.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:15 AM   #63
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She's not good with Fri but she's coming down. Long story but she hates my daughter and she hates her neighbor in PA. With good reason for both. So we are on for Fri!!
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:10 PM   #64
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Anybody know of a place to buy a small number of 1/4" plier-operated clecos? Every place I've found that sells these requires a minimum order of $50.
I've got a small bag of them and the tool as well. If you wana borrow em I'll send em your way. Just send em back when you're done?
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:19 PM   #65
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I've got a small bag of them and the tool as well. If you wana borrow em I'll send em your way. Just send em back when you're done?
Huh, I never saw this back in the day. Thanks for the offer! I'm pretty well-endowed with clecos now, though.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:27 PM   #66
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ECCB helped with mine, too.

Clecos are wonderful! I wouldn't do any other way.

Lots of useful info can be found in these old threads. Some just, ha. Definitely worth digging around.
Have you read the "Old Harold" thread? Poor Mildred.....
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:49 PM   #67
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ECCB helped with mine, too.

Clecos are wonderful! I wouldn't do any other way.

Lots of useful info can be found in these old threads. Some just, ha. Definitely worth digging around.
Have you read the "Old Harold" thread? Poor Mildred.....
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Old 12-17-2021, 04:21 PM   #68
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Good info here, gents. I'm trying to research which rivet gun to buy, which type of rivets, and praying that my 20 gallon/4CFM @ 90psi compressor will do the job. It hasn't fared so well at keeping up with the air hammer to knock out the rivets. LOTS of catch-up time.

Anyone still generous enough to loan or sell some 1/4" clecos? A lot of these tools will be a 1-time use for me, so hard to justify spending a bunch on buying new.

Seems like a mixed opinion on whether the Harbor Freight riveter (they have 3 different ones for sale) will handle those 1/4" steel rivets. I'm hoping to do the 1/4" blind closed end rivets, as they seem to be closest to factory, no? The link Musigenisis threw up seems like the ticket.
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Good info here, gents. I'm trying to research which rivet gun to buy, which type of rivets, and praying that my 20 gallon/4CFM @ 90psi compressor will do the job. It hasn't fared so well at keeping up with the air hammer to knock out the rivets. LOTS of catch-up time.

Anyone still generous enough to loan or sell some 1/4" clecos? A lot of these tools will be a 1-time use for me, so hard to justify spending a bunch on buying new.

Seems like a mixed opinion on whether the Harbor Freight riveter (they have 3 different ones for sale) will handle those 1/4" steel rivets. I'm hoping to do the 1/4" blind closed end rivets, as they seem to be closest to factory, no? The link Musigenisis threw up seems like the ticket.
I've used two of the Harbor Freight "Chief" 1/4 inch riveters and both of them failed in just a few months. One split the casting up the front, spewing oil all over. Both pulled 1/4-inch stainless steel rivets just fine with 90 psi...when they worked.

I ended up buying two of the cheaper $75 Harbor Freight 1/4 riveters, thinking I'd have one as a spare. Well, that second one's still in the box. The first one has outlasted the more expensive Chief riveters. The only downside for you will be your compressor limitation. The riveters don't use much air volume, but I had to crank the air pressure up to 110 psi to get the cheaper riveter to pull 1/4-inch stainless rivets. But at that pressure, it does great and it's lasted through over 2000 rivets so far.

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Old 12-17-2021, 08:21 PM   #70
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Yeha my $70 HF riveter still works like it did when I got it. Only use it occasionally anymore but I've got some stuff to rivet on our shorty one of these days
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Old 12-17-2021, 10:43 PM   #71
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I use the black model of the Harbor Freight rivet gun. I haven't set a large number of rivets yet and don't expect to set many more. So far all is good though. I think I set my pressure about 100 psi.


My largest rivets are 1/4".
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