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08-27-2019, 01:26 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Huntington Beach CA.
Posts: 939
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: T/C 2000 28 foot Handy Bus
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Mechanical
Rated Cap: 2
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Also in using rivnuts, it can always replace a rivet. This would allow you the structural support of the crossmember and no new penetrations in the roof.
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08-27-2019, 02:29 PM
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#22
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: the Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 258
Year: 1997
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 466e
Rated Cap: its Yuge
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Ribs are like an upside down hat channel. Unfortunately I didnt decided on how to build the rack until after I installed the ceiling. Had planned to drill a hole all the way through the outer skin, the hat channel, and the ceiling and put a large bolt thru. But will reeval the rivnuts.
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08-27-2019, 07:23 PM
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#23
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivetboy
Retirement is good.
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Soon, but not soon enough...
Quote:
Originally Posted by MambaJack
Ribs are like an upside down hat channel. Unfortunately I didnt decided on how to build the rack until after I installed the ceiling. Had planned to drill a hole all the way through the outer skin, the hat channel, and the ceiling and put a large bolt thru. But will reeval the rivnuts.
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Ah, U-channel, upside down hat, I get it. How are the channels attached to the roof? And the ceiling is already done, and beautiful by the way... I am planning a special spray foam Labor day weekend this weekend, if I can finish up boxing the front wheel wells... Your ceiling planks (and other woodwork) look really nice, great work.
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08-27-2019, 07:52 PM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComfortEagle
Soon, but not soon enough...
Ah, U-channel, upside down hat, I get it. How are the channels attached to the roof? And the ceiling is already done, and beautiful by the way... I am planning a special spray foam Labor day weekend this weekend, if I can finish up boxing the front wheel wells... Your ceiling planks (and other woodwork) look really nice, great work.
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The roof skins are riveted to the bottom of the hat brim on both sides.
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08-27-2019, 08:14 PM
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#25
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: the Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 258
Year: 1997
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 466e
Rated Cap: its Yuge
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I never really thought of it that way, but the roof is actually full of holes isn't it.
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08-27-2019, 08:30 PM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MambaJack
I never really thought of it that way, but the roof is actually full of holes isn't it.
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Over 1000 easy.
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08-27-2019, 09:33 PM
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#27
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 7
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Rated Cap: 66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivetboy
Now some people might consider me biased to rivnuts because of my screen name... and it's true.
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As you should be! I deal with rivnuts / nutserts on a regular basis and they're wonderful things.
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08-27-2019, 09:43 PM
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#28
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MambaJack
Had planned to drill a hole all the way through the outer skin, the hat channel, and the ceiling and put a large bolt thru.
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Carriage bolt with a pronged anti-turn washer? Your nut would be on the roof side and a tastefully painted carriage bolt head on your ceiling.
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08-27-2019, 09:55 PM
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#29
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Huntington Beach CA.
Posts: 939
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: T/C 2000 28 foot Handy Bus
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Mechanical
Rated Cap: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Watkins
As you should be! I deal with rivnuts / nutserts on a regular basis and they're wonderful things.
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09-04-2019, 05:27 PM
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#30
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: wa
Posts: 11
Year: 1999
Chassis: bluebird intl 3800
Engine: t444e
Rated Cap: 7.3l
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we went the roof deck + solar panel combo bolting down the sides. has held up perfectly the last 4 years since install. my philosophy is if you can avoid drilling through the roof do so. had a few leaks even being careful with silicone in some of the places where we did.
more pics
imgur album
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09-05-2019, 08:26 PM
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#31
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: ON Canada
Posts: 54
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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For my first 2 solar panels, I've made L brackets. Pre-drilled 5 holes in the part that connects to the roof. Cut out pieces of blueskin just slightly larger than the size of the bracket, stuck it to the roof (under each bracket). Drilled through the roof and used steel on steel closed rivets (5 per bracket). Caulked each rivet and around edges of each bracket with white Mono Ultra exterior caulking. Inside caulked each rivet with same caulking.
1 coat of gloss paint on roof before brackets installed, and 2 coats after brackets installed and the caulking had dried.
I'm holding off insulating the inside of my ceiling until any brackets for anything have been installed and thoroughly rain tested. It's taking longer, but working.
hope this is helpful.
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Ontario Schoolie
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09-11-2019, 02:40 PM
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#32
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: the Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 258
Year: 1997
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 466e
Rated Cap: its Yuge
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Update
Almost done installing rack and panels, figured I would post a pic.
Ended up bolting thru skin, rib, and interior wood.
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