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Old 04-18-2020, 05:48 PM   #1
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Roof raise transition?

Just wondering why people do a transition rather than just raising the whole roof? Aside from aerodynamics is there a reason behind it?
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Just wondering why people do a transition rather than just raising the whole roof? Aside from aerodynamics is there a reason behind it?
I don't like the giant forehead look, personally.
I did this one-

With a lil help from my friends.
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I don't like the giant forehead look, personally.
I did this one-

With a lil help from my friends.
Looks great. Is somebody still driving this bus around, or did something catastrophic happen to it?
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I don't like the giant forehead look, personally.
I did this one-

With a lil help from my friends.
THIS! All the way!

I think many like the throwback to the SceniCruiser profile.
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Looks great. Is somebody still driving this bus around, or did something catastrophic happen to it?
Nah, its solid man. Its new owner is still enjoying the bus.
Drove it like pictured from here to Del Rio Texas.
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THIS! All the way!

I think many like the throwback to the SceniCruiser profile.
That was a BIG inspiration for me. I love that look. Also the GM "Buffalo".
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Just wondering why people do a transition rather than just raising the whole roof? Aside from aerodynamics is there a reason behind it?
It kinda of like asking someone sausage or pepperoni on your pizza?
It mostly about what your personal flavor of the day is...

You can do a Frankenstein forehead (complete lift from front to rear cap), whale hump (raise from behind the drivers window to the next window) or raising it from the front cap to the back of the drivers window (eagle coach wannabe look) it is mostly a matter of personal preference, personal skill levels and/or funds available to pay someone to do it for you.

I am sure there is some aerodynamic considerations that could be tossed around all day but basically you still got a flat wall trying to cut through the wind as you drive.

This is the look I am going for on my bus which incidentally, I'll be raising the roof tommorrow.
I saw a video that "Wes" made on a roof raise in San Fran., and that is what I decided to go with.
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I don't think I ever got pics of the transition FULLY done as the final touches where the last few days and we were busy getting the bus ready for the 1200 mile journey to its new home.
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Nah, its solid man. Its new owner is still enjoying the bus.
Drove it like pictured from here to Del Rio Texas.
They have a build thread or instagram or whatever with their bus?
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Nah, its solid man.
Ha ha, BTW I wasn't implying that it looked like your raise was an impending catastrophe - I was just wondering why that isn't your bus any more.
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Yeah, I am still in the research phase. I will definitely want a raised roof. I don't think that the "high forehead look" would bother me and it just seems like it would a little more straightforward to raise the whole roof.
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Yeah, I am still in the research phase. I will definitely want a raised roof. I don't think that the "high forehead look" would bother me and it just seems like it would a little more straightforward to raise the whole roof.
I participated in one roof raise (user inhof009's full raise) and it was kind of difficult to figure out exactly how the front was constructed (particularly over the door) and get everything cut through so the raise could proceed. At one point we had to cut a cash in the roof outside so we could stick a sawzall blade in to cut the last bit to free the front. With a transition, at least the initial cutting is much simpler.
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They have a build thread or instagram or whatever with their bus?
derelicte bus via google search.
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Ha ha, BTW I wasn't implying that it looked like your raise was an impending catastrophe - I was just wondering why that isn't your bus any more.
Just a change of plans. My friend eddie died and we sold it and donated a portion of the proceeds to him to settle some affairs.
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Oh yeah, I watched a number of his videos last year. No idea that was your bus originally.
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Oh yeah, I watched a number of his videos last year. No idea that was your bus originally.
I REALLY put a lot of love into that bus. top to bottom.
THat mechanical DT466 purred so well, too.
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I REALLY put a lot of love into that bus. top to bottom.
THat mechanical DT466 purred so well, too.
I think what you did is the perfect roof raise. You basically just added another layer of rub rail and a smooth transition and the whole thing fits perfectly with the original style. No offense to the beluga buses, they're cool too.
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I am sure there is some aerodynamic considerations that could be tossed around all day but basically you still got a flat wall trying to cut through the wind as you drive.
Buses derive enormous aerodynamic advantages from not being able to go very fast.

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This is the look I am going for on my bus which incidentally, I'll be raising the roof tommorrow.
I saw a video that "Wes" made on a roof raise in San Fran., and that is what I decided to go with.
That's a pretty cool look. Did he keep the original cab roof over the driver, with storage under that sloped part?
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I think what you did is the perfect roof raise. You basically just added another layer of rub rail and a smooth transition and the whole thing fits perfectly with the original style. No offense to the beluga buses, they're cool too.
Thanks. I honestly felt it was PERFECT.

I obsessed over it and lost sleep over it but in the end it was worth it.
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It kinda of like asking someone sausage or pepperoni on your pizza?
It mostly about what your personal flavor of the day is...

You can do a Frankenstein forehead (complete lift from front to rear cap), whale hump (raise from behind the drivers window to the next window) or raising it from the front cap to the back of the drivers window (eagle coach wannabe look) it is mostly a matter of personal preference, personal skill levels and/or funds available to pay someone to do it for you.

I am sure there is some aerodynamic considerations that could be tossed around all day but basically you still got a flat wall trying to cut through the wind as you drive.

This is the look I am going for on my bus which incidentally, I'll be raising the roof tommorrow.
I saw a video that "Wes" made on a roof raise in San Fran., and that is what I decided to go with.



I like this look a lot. If I were to go back in time I would try and convince the girlfriend to have done our raise like this.


Instead we did the more "common" way....


Originally I was more a fan of the big forehead look. Cut right above the windshield and raise the whole roof. Front and rear bulkheads and flat metal in between. She didn't like that at all.

The transition area is a great place to do a skylight. Whether it is a car tailgate, or some portholes, etc. I think a transition without a window is a missed opportunity.
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