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11-08-2022, 04:46 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 34
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RV water heater install location
Looking for input / insight from anyone who has installed an RV water heater (Girard, Fogatti, etc). From the videos I've seen folks will cut the square hole in the side of their bus and place the unit on their subfloor. However I don't want to cut the chair rail area so was thinking of building a box for the heater to sit on and then cut the hole above (see photo).
Is there anything I might be missing here? Its obviously stressful to cut such a big hole so want to make sure I get it right!
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11-08-2022, 05:24 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Near Flagstaff AZ
Posts: 1,951
Year: 1974
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: "Atomic"
Engine: DD 8V71
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Your plan looks/sounds just fine. I actually like that you're not cutting through the chair rail. Good planning!
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11-08-2022, 06:10 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
Posts: 1,428
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65
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We installed ours just above the chair rail. Its sitting in the bottom of the base cabinet under the sink, and it just so happened to line up above the chair rail. Its pretty nerve wracking to cut a hole like that into the side of the bus, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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11-09-2022, 07:32 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Midwest
Posts: 267
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I would STRONGLY suggest not cutting any holes until it's absolutely necessary to do so. You think you know where the heater is going, but if there's anything at all that you haven't taken into account on your build, any measurement that's off, or anything in the design changes for whatever reason, you might find that hole in the wrong place.
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11-10-2022, 11:43 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,363
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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How about putting the water heater under the floor instead? If your bus has underfloor storage bays you can put it inside a bay, and to save precious storage space there you can then hang the heater from the floor above, still leaving space under it for storing Stuff. If you don't have underfloor bays, just hang it anyway from the floor. Advantages of doing this is that you're not using limited interior space, and if the heater should leak it will not flood the interior. I did this for my bus, and it now takes only a few minutes to easily remove the heater by simply loosening its four hangers, moving its support tray about an inch to the left and an inch down, then it just slides out. Easy!
John
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11-12-2022, 06:10 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 218
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceni John
How about putting the water heater under the floor instead? If your bus has underfloor storage bays you can put it inside a bay, and to save precious storage space there you can then hang the heater from the floor above, still leaving space under it for storing Stuff. If you don't have underfloor bays, just hang it anyway from the floor. Advantages of doing this is that you're not using limited interior space, and if the heater should leak it will not flood the interior. I did this for my bus, and it now takes only a few minutes to easily remove the heater by simply loosening its four hangers, moving its support tray about an inch to the left and an inch down, then it just slides out. Easy!
John
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That is where I put mine, just in front of the rear tire, on the passenger side. This will allow me the shortest length for the kitchen sink and the indoor shower. I had to cut the fender brace, as it was a tight fit due to having a 100 gal water aux water tank right next to it. I will rebace the fender and build a small frame on the backside to hold some insulation as I plan on a lot of cold weather camping.
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11-16-2022, 03:51 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bellingham Washington
Posts: 116
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: 6.4 liter Mercedes MBE 900
Rated Cap: 48 passenger
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I did what you are describing. Put the 6 gallon Suburban water heater on a box to raise it. I also DID cut the chair rail, to have the heater and all it's "stuff" fit under the countertop, and be able to intersect the rub rail the way I wanted on the outside.
Edit: looks like the picture didn't go through. I e never been able to post a picture on this forum.
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11-16-2022, 04:18 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Northern California
Posts: 44
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: FC
Engine: Cat C-7
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I went with a propane on demand unit. It takes little space a has 1 round hole to outside for combustion air and exhaust
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11-16-2022, 04:30 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2020
Location: San Diego
Posts: 21
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins 5.9 common rail
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Propane on demand hot water heater
My installation may not be for everyone but it works fine for me. Unlimited hot water for the kitchen sink and shower which is right behind the wall you see in the picture. The supply runs are very short which helps conserve water. The water heater cost about $100 and the picture was taken during the building process.
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11-16-2022, 07:52 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John 321
My installation may not be for everyone but it works fine for me. Unlimited hot water for the kitchen sink and shower which is right behind the wall you see in the picture. The supply runs are very short which helps conserve water. The water heater cost about $100 and the picture was taken during the building process.
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This is exactly where I'm putting mine (just on the other side of the bus), above the sink on the wall between the sink and the shower.
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11-17-2022, 09:40 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,439
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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Same location for me. I attach the vent pipe to the heater and it exhausts out the little side window of my shuttle bus. Very short runs of Pex.
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