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07-11-2021, 02:13 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 570
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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"School bus" lettering
How did you guys go about removing them without the yellow paint ripping and coming off with the letters? Feel i might have to do something extra when it comes to finally painting my skoolie because of this
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07-11-2021, 02:23 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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I used a heat gun and a putty knife, followed with lacquer thinner and scotch brite. Others swear by the eraser wheels you can pick up at auto paint suppliers
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07-11-2021, 02:57 PM
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#3
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 570
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Forgot to mention I used exactly that, heat gun and puddy knife. Some letters came off smooth on the other side and here and there but no matter how much heat I let hit it what you see in the pic happens.
Thanks!
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07-11-2021, 02:59 PM
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#4
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Bly Oregon
Posts: 535
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: Cummins 350 big cam
Rated Cap: 86 passengers?
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I used a razor scraper to remove the lettering on the "new Crown" as they were stick-on letters. I used an orbital sander to touch up the paint surface and then painted over that. The old Crown has painted lettering so probably will use orbital sander for that.
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07-11-2021, 03:00 PM
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#5
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,558
Coachwork: Integrated Coach Corp.
Chassis: RE-300 42ft
Engine: 466ci
Rated Cap: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
I used a heat gun and a putty knife, followed with lacquer thinner and scotch brite. Others swear by the eraser wheels you can pick up at auto paint suppliers
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Everything, Danjo suggested, yes.
Yours may need heat. (I see you tried heat)
Probably use multiple methods, depends on the decal. The plastic blades worked well on all of my reflective tape & bulkheads. Used the PinForce wheel on most black lettering. Mineral spirits & acetone worked on the glue, but slow. Xylene works better. Replaced plastic blade frequently.
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07-11-2021, 05:30 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adic27
Forgot to mention I used exactly that, heat gun and puddy knife. Some letters came off smooth on the other side and here and there but no matter how much heat I let hit it what you see in the pic happens.
Thanks!
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Too much heat? Well, anyway, you’ll just need to fill that back in with primer and sand back to level. Not really too bad
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07-11-2021, 06:52 PM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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I don't think I've ever seen school bus lettering peel off the paint behind it - it suggests that maybe the entire bus paint job did not adhere very well to that galvanized material. What happens if you take the heat gun and putty knife to an area that was not underneath lettering?
Maybe they applied the lettering before the paint had completely cured, and that caused adhesion problems only underneath the letters?
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07-11-2021, 08:23 PM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Near Flagstaff AZ
Posts: 1,951
Year: 1974
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: "Atomic"
Engine: DD 8V71
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Get a Whizzy Wheel...basically what DeMac has in his photo, above. I've had success with those when heat and scraping failed to remove things, without paint damage. The Whizzy Wheel won't damage the paint beneath.
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07-11-2021, 11:20 PM
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#9
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Fraser Valley British Columbia
Posts: 1,043
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: C7 Cat
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Heat gun, razor scraper and acitone on a rag is all I've every needed.
(Wear gloves when using acitone)
Good luck
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07-30-2021, 05:40 AM
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#10
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 16
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TS2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 67
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I used one of these. Worked fantastic. Kinda peeved I messed up the paint on a few letters before I found it.
https://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Remo.../dp/B0922LTMNC
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08-08-2021, 07:29 PM
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#11
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: New England
Posts: 141
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Michael Corbier
Chassis: GMC Savana 3500
Engine: 6.5 Diesel
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Whizzy Wheel
I used this product on the school system lettering on all sides of the bus. I recommend it. I also used goof-off to remove the adhesive.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rossvtaylor
Get a Whizzy Wheel...basically what DeMac has in his photo, above. I've had success with those when heat and scraping failed to remove things, without paint damage. The Whizzy Wheel won't damage the paint beneath.
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08-18-2021, 05:12 AM
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#12
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Almost There
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: AZ
Posts: 93
Year: ‘09
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Vision
Engine: 6.7
Rated Cap: 35’
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Hot pressure washer. Blows them right off, and the paint too if you are too close. Enough practice and you will find the perfect distance. It makes a mess, but I have tried all of the other ways, and this is the fastest with the least amount of paint loss.
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02-05-2022, 09:02 AM
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#13
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Liberty Lake, WA
Posts: 12
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Engine: CAT C7 7.2liter
Rated Cap: 30,000
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Hot Nevada Desert?
Decided to comment after reading all the above posts...bought my Thomas in Las Vegas from the school dist.
We tried every single of the above over the course of two days and were able to remove a couple of the decals (the wheel was most effective but was slow even for it).
We ended up having a local mobile sandblaster company come in...it took him well over an hour to get them all off. We had to primer the area after which decidedly doesn't look good, but it was highly effective and would do both again.
The only thing I would do differently is to do it first thing, because we waited till the windows were removed and the sandblasting media got into everything.
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