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07-11-2011, 06:00 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Screens
Has anyone made screen windows for their roof hatches?
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07-11-2011, 08:05 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Screens
We don't have roof hatches so I didn't have to screen any... just my windows.
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07-11-2011, 10:29 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Screens
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmylc
I believe there is one or two....
of course i cant remember who...
36"x36" frame?
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Yeah, but they have round corners. :/ No way, cant be that big...can they?
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07-12-2011, 09:54 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: Screens
Good idea! I think I'll do the following:
1. make a cutout frame from 3/8" plywood big enough to surround the hatch.
2. glue screen material onto magnetic strips and then glue/tack the resulting assembly onto the plywood.
3. stick it onto the ceiling surrounding the hatch when needed.
Possible problem: magnetic strips may not be strong enough to hold plywood up. If this is the case, I would use those super magnets, and then fill in the space between magnets with self-stick strip insulation like you would put on a door frame.
Other problem: storage. I would have to have a place to store large, yet flat objects. But then again, I plan on making screens for all my windows using a similar technique, so I will just have to dedicate one of my storage areas to screen storage.
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07-12-2011, 10:04 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
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Re: Screens
I just made screens for the windows. I had 5/8's plywood hanging around so I made some 1" frames with gussets in the corners. Got screen material and hot glued them to the front. I put them in whatever windows I want. Magnets wont work, can almost guarantee that.
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07-13-2011, 10:36 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: Screens
Curvature of the ceiling may also be a problem with my design idea. I suppose I could just build up the gap with the insulation strips, but if the curve is an issue I would definitely use the super magnets rather than the magnetic strips because of the limited contact with the metal. I don't have any direct experience with the super magnets, but from demonstrations I've seen online I think there is a good chance they would hold the weight of the frame.
For my side windows I will not be using magnets because the window frames are aluminum and the steel pillars are going to be hidden behind wood trim. So I will make the screen frames such that they just get inserted into the framed window opening from the inside and are secured using some sort of swivel tabs.
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07-13-2011, 11:53 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
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Re: Screens
Here are the window screens:
I was thinking of putting screen up to this lip and maybe hold them in there with.....hmmm..bubble gum?
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07-13-2011, 12:00 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 801
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Re: Screens
What about the material they use to make the refridgerator magnets? do we think it would hold up the screens . minus the wood?
there I go thunking again....
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07-13-2011, 12:13 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Screens
Using my idea its all plastic. We have used a bunch of magnets, for hanging curtains and such.
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07-13-2011, 12:16 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 60
Coachwork: flatnosed
Chassis: amtran/bluebird/thomas
Engine: diesel
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Re: Screens
Velcro
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Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
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07-15-2011, 01:37 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: S.E.UTAH
Posts: 19
Year: 1946
Coachwork: ?
Chassis: chevrolet
Engine: 292L 6
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Re: Screens
Small stainless leaf springs; like in a barret.
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07-15-2011, 07:47 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: Screens
How about the turn buttons they use to hold screens in window frames? And why are you wanting to use wood? They sell aluminum screen track and plastic corners in Lowes/Home Depot. Just straight cut with a hacksaw, stick the corners in and add fiberglass screen/spline. Easy and fast. That's what I used to make our screens. Make the frame slightly bigger than the opening so that the screen frame sits on the hatch frame and use the turn buttons to hold it tight to the hatch frame. The curve of the roof should be a big deal since the aluminum screen frame will flex a little and the turn buttons will hold it tight. Just make sure you get turn buttons sized for the thickness of your screen frame. Also easy to remove and clean.
Turn button (back spacer was trimmed so the button sits flush on the window frame)
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07-15-2011, 10:06 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
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Year: 1995
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Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Re: Screens
I could do that but there is no stores like that for 120 miles. Wood is more readily available [in the shop] and a lot cheaper.
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