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Old 11-19-2022, 08:23 PM   #1
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Seat replacement

Greetings everyone,

I am well on my way in my bus conversion project. Recently, my wife and I bought a 2002 bluebird all American rear engine and we are currently in the process of gutting the inside in preparation for a roof raise and improved insulation.

While Iíve been doing this, Iíve been thinking about what I want to do with the driver seat. I currently have a fully functional air ride suspension base, which I am definitely going to keep. The upholstery and driver seat are not in good condition, so I was curious about the process of changing it.

My question is can I just take any kind of vehicle seat and mount it to the existing air ride base? If so, my plan was to go to a vehicle junkyard and find a big captain chair, But I donít know if thatís going to work the same way as the seat thatís already there. If I canít replace the seat, Iím probably going to end up just buying a cover and sliding it over the top. However, I would like to have something more comfortable to drive in.

Any help or advice in this area will be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-19-2022, 09:30 PM   #2
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You can get a seat from a semi at a junkyard. Having the air ride base already is good because you shouldnt need an adapter plate with whatever you find. I found mine on Facebook marketplace for a really good deal where someone took them out of their brand new Super C RV. Check facebook and craigslist first. Then go to some wrecking yards.


What you have to watch for with your plan is that air ride bases bounce, so the seat belt should be attached to the seat/ top of the base so it moves with you and doesnt lock when you bounce.
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Old 11-19-2022, 11:37 PM   #3
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So, if I go to a junkyard and find a seat, will I be able to attach it to the base I already have? Is that what youíre suggesting?
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Old 11-20-2022, 03:32 PM   #4
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For my freightliner chassis bus, i found a freightliner air ride seat on ebay, $250 delivered,
Nothing fancy, but it has arm rest and bolted to the original platform w/o any hassles.
The seller had the mount hole measurements in the listing, easy peasy.
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Old 11-21-2022, 04:01 PM   #5
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That brings up another question: How do I know what chassis I have in my bus? I've always looked for stuff using the Bluebird name. Should I be looking for a different manufacturer when I need something?
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Old 11-21-2022, 05:12 PM   #6
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My title has freightliner on it.
Also on the vin plate located on the firewall under the hood.
(I have a front engine bus)
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:59 PM   #7
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Your plan is exactly what I did; however, there were some issues.

My wife and I went to a local U-Pull-It yard and got two seats from a Toyota Sienna van (one for driver one for "co-driver"). I then set about using my limited welding skills to make a mount that would put the driver's seat on the existing (2005 Bluebird All American) air ride pedestal. It worked great until I went to drive the bus. The extra seat height of the Toyota seat meant that the overall height of the seat, when combined with the air ride pedestal, was WAY to high. I have since given up on the concept of keeping the air ride.
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Old 11-22-2022, 08:06 PM   #8
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Hi Mr. Octobus! As mentioned above (below?) you can find a semi truck seat, either new or from a wrecking yard. The seat should come with the air ride base and the base hole patterns are pretty universal. They have multiple hole locations and I've found they generally have holes which line up with existing holes. Worst case, you drill a few new ones and through-bolt it to the floor with large fender washers below.

You don't need to look specifically for a Bluebird seat. Any semi truck seat should work.
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Old 11-26-2022, 05:37 PM   #9
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Driverís seat

I looked seriously at replacing my driverís seat. I have the air ride base that works great. The lumbar support has an air leak so I capped off the line for now. I looked at new and junkyard seats. I decided to reupholster the one I have and fixing the lumbar support instead of trying to fit another seat. New foam and new cover material will work just fine for me.
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Old 11-26-2022, 07:57 PM   #10
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Guess I'm the Outlaw here. I took flat plate of steel bolted to my air ride base. Drilled holes in steel and bolted a Acura seat on. $25 dollars for seat, maybe like 20 for steel plate. Cheap and easy. My bus seat kept going into recline mode unexpectedly. Car seats fit pretty good, I find them comfortable
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