Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-13-2023, 09:08 AM   #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 3
Should I buy 2009 Thomas 40 Saf-T-Liner Motorcoach

Looks like a nice bus at a local auction, but not sure if this is a good candidate for a skoolie conversion. All comments are appreciated! Appears to have the Cummins ISL engine and Allison transmission. 157k miles.
Attached Thumbnails
dbea955c6c52e8b592378903373dc1f7.jpg  

BuellBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2023, 09:41 AM   #2
Bus Nut
 
fo4imtippin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 724
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000 28ft
Engine: Cummins ISB 5.9 24v, MD3060
Rated Cap: 14
I like it. the 2009 ISL may have some emissions equipment on it and the fuel injection system is likely worth more than the purchase price of the bus. If possible, i would want to inspect in person. If everything is solid and it would be a great platform for a build.
fo4imtippin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2023, 09:56 AM   #3
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by fo4imtippin View Post
I like it. the 2009 ISL may have some emissions equipment on it and the fuel injection system is likely worth more than the purchase price of the bus. If possible, i would want to inspect in person. If everything is solid and it would be a great platform for a build.
Thanks for the input. Engine compartment looks decent all things considered. Not sure if there is anything to learn from the pictures.
Attached Thumbnails
6aae0c37baccff1e62638acde62949d2.jpg   e65840df968662b8c1fdb588194fad10.jpg   ec480a7f4b18d5897c90224d8e5c119e.jpg   446f4190c0d8c61ae5531f6c1c200605.jpg  
BuellBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2023, 12:40 PM   #4
Bus Nut
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Toledo OH
Posts: 781
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP-EF
Engine: Cat C7 + Allison 3000PTS
Definitely looks like the 8.3L Cummins, which is an excellent choice from what I've seen/read. Don't know if there would have been any diesel particulate filter systems on that model in 2009, others here hopefully know more.
dbsoundman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2023, 04:26 PM   #5
Bus Crazy
 
HamSkoolie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,607
Year: 1996
Coachwork: AmTran (Now Navistar)
Engine: DT444E (7.3L) International
Rated Cap: 31,800 pounds
My only issue is the age. It's TOO NEW and will have major emissions systems that weren't installed on pre 2004 rigs.

If it has a DEF system I wouldn't buy it at all.
Other than that, it is a nice looking bus, but do you want to deal with emissions systems issues? They can get real expensive real fast.
__________________
YouTube: HAMSkoolie WEB: HAMSkoolie.com
We've done so much, for so long, with so little, we now do the impossible, overnight, with nothing. US Marines -- 6531, 3521. . . .Ret ASE brakes & elect. Ret (auto and aviation mech). Extra Class HAM, NAUI/PADI OpenWater diver
HamSkoolie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2023, 09:53 AM   #6
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by HamSkoolie View Post
My only issue is the age. It's TOO NEW and will have major emissions systems that weren't installed on pre 2004 rigs.

If it has a DEF system I wouldn't buy it at all.
Other than that, it is a nice looking bus, but do you want to deal with emissions systems issues? They can get real expensive real fast.
Very good point. Thank you for the feedback!
BuellBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2023, 05:00 PM   #7
Bus Crazy
 
HamSkoolie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,607
Year: 1996
Coachwork: AmTran (Now Navistar)
Engine: DT444E (7.3L) International
Rated Cap: 31,800 pounds
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuellBoy View Post
Very good point. Thank you for the feedback!

You're welcome. Any bus with transit type (as opposed to traditional school bus) windows will look less like a skoolie and the biases against skoolies in some places might be avoided. We're actually looking at custom dual panes to replace our single pane transit windows in at least the front of the bus. If the emergency exit windows are actually functional we may do the two in the bedroom.... but if we do, the budget is shot as they're around $600 EACH and we have 6.
__________________
YouTube: HAMSkoolie WEB: HAMSkoolie.com
We've done so much, for so long, with so little, we now do the impossible, overnight, with nothing. US Marines -- 6531, 3521. . . .Ret ASE brakes & elect. Ret (auto and aviation mech). Extra Class HAM, NAUI/PADI OpenWater diver
HamSkoolie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2023, 07:14 PM   #8
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,841
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
it looks like a neat bus.. beinhg a thomas it will likely in 2009 use a multiplex system for various bus components like lighting, air conditioning, heating.. youll need to be careful in how to pull any wanted accessories out of it..


older busses not only lack emission systems they also have much simpler systems in the interior (switches, relays and wires ).....
cadillackid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.