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06-22-2018, 05:07 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SE WI
Posts: 118
Year: 2002
Coachwork: American Transportation Corp
Chassis: International 3000
Engine: International T 444E
Rated Cap: 71 pass., 12 window
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Using Existing Bus Seats
Hi!
Brainstorming over here! I'm trying to use some of my existing bus seats since the bus company I bought mine from had just replaced some seats within the last few months. (new seats! woot!)
I know some of you have kept them. Want to show off your seats?? I'd love to see how/where you used them!!
Plan is to get seats removed this weekend. Rusted bolts is making my bus stubborn!
Thanks!
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06-22-2018, 05:11 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,032
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Bus seats are easy if you have 2 people and an impact drill. Friend with impact drill on top, and you get the dirty job underneath with a wrench. I can knock out a full length bus in about 15 minutes.
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06-22-2018, 05:19 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SE WI
Posts: 118
Year: 2002
Coachwork: American Transportation Corp
Chassis: International 3000
Engine: International T 444E
Rated Cap: 71 pass., 12 window
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Whoa! I'll look into the impact drill idea. We're short on time so that would be great! Thanks for the tip!
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06-22-2018, 05:35 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,032
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I bought this set: https://amzn.to/2uGYStZ
Honestly the impact drill is the most useful tool I didn't know I needed. I use it for everything. It's surprisingly powerful.
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06-22-2018, 05:35 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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The problem with most bus seats are they are not free standing on 4 legs. They only have legs on one end, making them useless as bench seating outside the bus.
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06-22-2018, 07:27 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SE WI
Posts: 118
Year: 2002
Coachwork: American Transportation Corp
Chassis: International 3000
Engine: International T 444E
Rated Cap: 71 pass., 12 window
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Thanks brokedown!!
marc, yes, true. I would like to use them maybe in the dining area and make a table to go with them. Haven't thought outside, but...
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06-22-2018, 07:32 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trail Fairy
Thanks brokedown!!
marc, yes, true. I would like to use them maybe in the dining area and make a table to go with them. Haven't thought outside, but...
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If you utilize the old seat rail you can use a left side seat on the right side backwards. Mounted that way you could have a table booth that way.
Have them reupholstered to something nice. I'll have to look at that option on my build.
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06-22-2018, 07:38 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Bus seats are easy if you have 2 people and an impact drill. Friend with impact drill on top, and you get the dirty job underneath with a wrench. I can knock out a full length bus in about 15 minutes.
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Doesn't even need to be an impact drill, a standard drill should do. I was quite surprised to find how loose the nuts were on my 19 yo bus. Just put a box end on the nut, turn it to break it free and have upstairs spin it off with the drill. I started with impact thinking I could tighten and snap the heads off like someone else here got away with. Impact alone did nothing more than make the bolt spin in it's hole because they aren't that tight.
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06-22-2018, 10:33 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,489
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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Yes, we did exactly that for the dining on both our small and our transit bus. With the table lowered it becomes a be for the youngest in the small bus. In the transit we made the dining area a lot wider so that it could function as bed for the not so tall people.
later J
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06-23-2018, 12:06 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SE WI
Posts: 118
Year: 2002
Coachwork: American Transportation Corp
Chassis: International 3000
Engine: International T 444E
Rated Cap: 71 pass., 12 window
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I was thinking of turning a seat and thus utilizing 2 for dining, but I'm interested in seeing how folks did this. And versions of a collapsible wall table. The problem with our seat bolts is they are rusted to the nuts on the underside of the bus. Spinning with a drill. Hard to grasp from top because they are so tight to the floor. Tight, but spin. Ugh.
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06-23-2018, 06:22 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: League City, TX
Posts: 321
Year: 1994
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT408 6.7L L6
Rated Cap: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblack5
Yes, we did exactly that for the dining on both our small and our transit bus. With the table lowered it becomes a be for the youngest in the small bus. In the transit we made the dining area a lot wider so that it could function as bed for the not so tall people.
later J
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This is exactly what I was planning. Would you mind snapping a few pictures of your short bus dinette? My youngest is 4 and this was my plan for him until my oldest leaves(15).
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06-23-2018, 07:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,339
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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there are bus seats with 4 legs.. a guy gave me a few from a thomas Van Cutaway bus... some of those style busses seem to have 4 legged seats rather than the chair rail style like the big busses.. I see them show up on craigslist for free or cheap from time to time.
-Christopher
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06-30-2018, 09:17 PM
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#14
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 64
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You can look at my album and see how i reused a few of my original seats. They work great for the dinette or even leaving a couple in so if you bring younger kids along you can seatbelt them in
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07-02-2018, 04:40 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Southeast Georgia
Posts: 28
Year: 1992
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72 passengers
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Bus seats.
I used a cutting torch to cut the heads off the bolts.
The blue flame Speed Wrench works very fast and you only need one person to do this.
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07-02-2018, 07:39 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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I used a metal cutting disc and cut the heads off from upstairs. Had the whole bus done in 15 mins.
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07-04-2018, 07:54 AM
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#17
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SE WI
Posts: 118
Year: 2002
Coachwork: American Transportation Corp
Chassis: International 3000
Engine: International T 444E
Rated Cap: 71 pass., 12 window
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Thank you all very much! This is really helpful. So my husband had already tried an impact drill on those seats with no luck. They were that $#%&$ stuck. The nuts were tightened well and very rusted to the bolt where it was basically one solid piece. It was a fight, but we won and now the seats we need out are on the floor of his man cave. We did keep some rows of seats in for an outing we're doing the first weekend in August, and we flipped on seat around for the dining area. So I'm thinking the floors will have to wait until after the outing when we take a few more rows out...
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07-04-2018, 03:26 PM
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#18
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Greater Houston, Tx.
Posts: 588
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Tight nuts have been a problem for many of us)-:
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