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05-10-2016, 05:55 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
Posts: 209
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 to Zero. Folding Chair
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Wall Removal
Hello all,
Thanks for the help on my previous questions and requests for advise.
I would like to remove the lower wall section / chair rail section of walls from my Carpenter International Bus.
Is this possible?
Is it a good idea?
Are the four rivets per rib attached to the exterior wall or do they stop in the rib?
Attached is a link of the picture.
http://picpaste.com/utaaXB2C.jpg
Thanks,
DLJIII
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"The Independence"
98 International
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05-10-2016, 06:03 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 218
Year: 1997
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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There have been discussions and diagrams of this before. It is structural and an extremely bad idea to remove.
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05-10-2016, 06:22 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
Posts: 209
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 to Zero. Folding Chair
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Sense
Ok, that makes sense.
I do plan to remove the actual seat rail itself.
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"The Independence"
98 International
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05-10-2016, 09:43 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Depends on how it is constructed. On most Skoolies, the chair rail is a critical structural element that ties the body to the lower chassis & frame and needs to be left in place. Do some homework on your unit before getting crazy with an angle grinder and cut-off disks.
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05-10-2016, 09:51 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
Posts: 209
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 to Zero. Folding Chair
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Ok, I can check.
I don't like the chair rail.
It is in the way and would be much easily to insulate the wall with more access.
If it helps my Bus is a 99 3800 international, carpenter body.
I will have to slide around under it and check everything.
Thank you
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05-10-2016, 09:59 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Actually, the area below the chair rail makes an excellent chase for electrical & even plumbing.
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05-11-2016, 12:51 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: on the land of tejas; state of mind
Posts: 86
Year: 95
Coachwork: Amtran ss-33
Chassis: Int 3800
Engine: dt444E
Rated Cap: 29,000
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yep, my d side had 2 -1" heater hoses and a sheet metal cover for the remote heater. using the remote heater to add extra radiator capacity for an under bus radiator. label says 90,000 btu's. might keep the dam fan from locking up and drawing hp.
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05-11-2016, 01:13 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 220
Year: 2003
Chassis: IC CE
Engine: T444
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New2Skool
Ok, I can check.
I don't like the chair rail.
It is in the way and would be much easily to insulate the wall with more access.
If it helps my Bus is a 99 3800 international, carpenter body.
I will have to slide around under it and check everything.
Thank you
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I'd suggest against it, as several people have said it could be structural. It can be used to ferry wiring and plumping easily and honestly you probably will not notice it as much of it will be covered up depending on how you wish to make your skoolies interior look.
the pocket created by the lower side wall actually makes it far easier to insulate. At worst you can slit 3 small lines to create a "bendable" area and slide the board insulation in. However if you go spray foam its moot as you can just angle the spray nozzle as needed.
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05-11-2016, 06:41 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
Posts: 209
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 to Zero. Folding Chair
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Thank You
Thanks for the advise.
The lower wall panel stays the way it is.
I will work around it.
Thanks for the help.
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05-11-2016, 07:01 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New2Skool
Thanks for the advise.
The lower wall panel stays the way it is.
I will work around it.
Thanks for the help.
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I really like your enthusiasm and your positive attitude, man.
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05-11-2016, 03:51 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
Posts: 209
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 to Zero. Folding Chair
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Thanks
Thank you, I love my Bus
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