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02-19-2019, 03:47 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 22
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What do you think?!
I went and checked out a 2002 skoolie a few days ago that appears to have some rust on the undercarriage. Doesn’t look that bad but was hoping to get some feedback as to whether or not it looks worth purchase and/or repairable.
Other details:
- 115k miles
- Running water
- Air/heat
- 2 bedrooms
- 1 bathroom
It’s going for 10k
Thanks in advance for all of your help!!
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02-19-2019, 04:33 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
Posts: 460
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
Rated Cap: 29,000
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The actual frame doesn't look that bad. Have you poked around with a screwdriver? Depending on the running gear, the bus is probably worth around 1/4 to 1/3 of the asking price. I guess it all depends on how much you value the conversion work to be.
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02-19-2019, 05:20 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 22
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That's what I was thinking as well. It's actually a 2001 Thomas International 3000 series 3800 8 cyl / 7.8 L diesel. Allison MT643 transmission. It's got two 55 gallon water pumps, one fresh and one gray. 30 amp plug in shore electricity. Wood flooring. Hydraulic breaks. Any further thoughts?
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02-19-2019, 05:31 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
Posts: 460
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
Rated Cap: 29,000
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7.8 V8? I assume you mean the 7.3 T444E? If the mileage is correct, it's probably okay. I'd rather have air brakes on a full sized bus, but I know a fair number have hydraulics (for some reason). The tranny is one of the good ones.
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02-19-2019, 05:33 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 22
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Ah yes! I think you're right in saying that. I must have misheard the seller because I just noticed that on his listing it says Navistat T444E. Woops!
Do you think that's an unreasonable price?
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02-19-2019, 05:46 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
Posts: 460
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
Rated Cap: 29,000
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Guess it all depends on how much you value the work that has been done. If you consider the entry price of $3000, is there 7 grand worth of work/materials in it? Have the ceiling/walls/floor been insulated?
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02-19-2019, 06:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,689
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Its not the worst rust I've seen but man for ten g's I'd expect zero rust.
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02-20-2019, 08:29 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Rust looks superficial in pics. Real question is the conversion quality. What kind of heat and air, insulation, etc. The paint job doesn’t look like it was done very carefully. You can argue that it doesn’t matter that much, but people that do careful work tend to have a consistent work ethic.
It would kill be to sell mine for close to as little as $10k, but I have receipts and pics to prove the content, expense and build quality.
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