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09-24-2019, 06:39 PM
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#21
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: NY
Posts: 12
Chassis: 1997 bluebird AAFE cummings 8.3
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man some of these posts are really hard to understand on this thread. People are now slapping at the keyboard like its a text message and i'm over here like where's the complete thought?
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09-24-2019, 06:47 PM
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#22
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nothing2lose
man some of these posts are really hard to understand on this thread. People are now slapping at the keyboard like its a text message and i'm over here like where's the complete thought?
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18ga. lol
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09-24-2019, 07:35 PM
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#23
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Posts: 220
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: 6-71TA
Rated Cap: 90
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The lowest I would go is 16ga and that is already difficult to work with.
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09-24-2019, 07:56 PM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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If the span is around 2', 20 guage works just fine, that's what I used, doesn't oilcan or anything and is cheaper than 18g
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09-24-2019, 08:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Genghis
There was tubular steel framing the seats, but there was sheet metal on the backs under the Upholstery between the framing. The sheet metal was the size of the seat backs, ~ 3' x 2'. I recovered about 30 + pieces from my 77 pax Thomas.
Genghis sends.
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It's all bent though, isn't it - for stiffening? Or were your backs completely flat?
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09-24-2019, 08:28 PM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWRider
The lowest I would go is 16ga and that is already difficult to work with.
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FWIW my $30 Harbor Freight shears can easily cut at least down to 14ga (I haven't tried thicker).
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09-24-2019, 09:23 PM
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#27
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
FWIW my $30 Harbor Freight shears can easily cut at least down to 14ga (I haven't tried thicker).
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Skinning in 16 or 14 is just a waste and way more work than its worth. Takes way more to cut and drill that thick plate.
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09-25-2019, 03:57 AM
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#28
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
FWIW my $30 Harbor Freight shears can easily cut at least down to 14ga (I haven't tried thicker).
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Is that the one labled to handle 20 gauge? I saw it many times and thought it would be too light.
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09-25-2019, 05:21 AM
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#29
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Is that the one labled to handle 20 gauge? I saw it many times and thought it would be too light.
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No, I think that's the swivel-headed one. The normal shears advertise 14ga and actually work fine for that thickness.
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09-25-2019, 11:05 PM
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#30
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
No, I think that's the swivel-headed one. The normal shears advertise 14ga and actually work fine for that thickness.
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Thank you.
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09-30-2019, 09:22 AM
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#31
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Manitoba Canada
Posts: 143
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Tomas
Engine: 7.3l
Rated Cap: 72
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Find a end roll
I used a end roll of 18 Guage I got for couple hundred Canadian dollars.
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10-02-2019, 01:25 PM
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#32
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 218
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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18 gauge galvanized, they were cut already had to remove only a couple of inches 3x10 ft. Would not go heavier, cut ok with the cheap HF electric shears. The red and green aviation sheers cut through them well.
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10-02-2019, 01:26 PM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ism minerals
18 gauge galvanized, they were cut already had to remove only a couple of inches 3x10 ft. Would not go heavier, cut ok with the cheap HF electric shears. The red and green aviation sheers cut through them well.
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Yeah imagine trying to work with anything thicker!
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04-20-2021, 09:35 PM
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#34
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 19
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I was reading this thread and noticed no one is using aluminum.
May I ask why?
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04-20-2021, 10:19 PM
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#35
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,570
Coachwork: Integrated Coach Corp.
Chassis: RE-300 42ft
Engine: 466ci
Rated Cap: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben3361
I was reading this thread and noticed no one is using aluminum.
May I ask why?
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Galvanic corrosion (also called bimetallic corrosion or dissimilar metal corrosion) is an electrochemical process in which one metal corrodes preferentially when it is in electrical contact with another, in the presence of an electrolyte. A similar galvanic reaction is exploited in primary cells to generate a useful electrical voltage to power portable devices.
-wiki
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04-21-2021, 05:54 AM
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#36
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben3361
I was reading this thread and noticed no one is using aluminum.
May I ask why?
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Check out the cost of aluminum sheet. Probably cheaper to use hardened unicorn's tears.
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04-21-2021, 09:52 AM
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#37
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 994
Year: 1999
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If you are thinking aluminum for something that doesn't rust or rot, there is fiberglass, it adheres to steel and diy its cheap.
Given the floor is going to be covered with foam and thick wood, I don't see the need for the steel at all.
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02-17-2022, 03:26 PM
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#38
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 1
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Have a question
Hey where did you get a price that good for steel sheets that were 18guage to 20 guage for that size? I am getting quotes for triple that so thought I may see where you got your quote from or by now you may have actually purchased it. My email is dealsforyou2015@yahoo.com please lmk thanks so much for your time!
Lindsey Wagner
QUOTE=Twigg;262454]What gauge of sheet steel are folk using to skin-over windows?
I was planning to use 18-gauge, but I noticed that dzlfreak used 20-gauge and he had more distance to span than I have.
I have quotes of $75 for a 8 x 4 sheet of 1008 at 18-gauge and am assuming the 20-gauge will be about $60, and a lot easier to cut and handle.[/QUOTE]
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02-17-2022, 05:39 PM
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#39
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,607
Year: 1996
Coachwork: AmTran (Now Navistar)
Engine: DT444E (7.3L) International
Rated Cap: 31,800 pounds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lwagner1984
Hey where did you get a price that good for steel sheets that were 18guage to 20 guage for that size? I am getting quotes for triple that so thought I may see where you got your quote from or by now you may have actually purchased it. My email is dealsforyou2015@yahoo.com please lmk thanks so much for your time!
Lindsey Wagner
QUOTE=Twigg;262454]What gauge of sheet steel are folk using to skin-over windows?
I was planning to use 18-gauge, but I noticed that dzlfreak used 20-gauge and he had more distance to span than I have.
I have quotes of $75 for a 8 x 4 sheet of 1008 at 18-gauge and am assuming the 20-gauge will be about $60, and a lot easier to cut and handle.
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[/QUOTE]
The post with those prices is four years old. Someone resurected an ancient thread.
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02-17-2022, 08:09 PM
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#40
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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I used FRP (fiberglass reinforced plastic) for blanking my windows. It's the stuff they build RV and semitrailer siding with. Bought a big old roll of the stuff, and have used it for many other things. I blanked windows individually.
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