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05-25-2020, 09:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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What to do with the rusty ones
This was sent to me. I don’t think that’s “up-cycling” but whatevers
https://returntonow.net/2020/05/25/c...o-greenhouses/
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05-25-2020, 10:10 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,030
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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They recycled the tin roof into planter boxes, which they expect to withstand rot better than wood boxes.
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Tin roof ... RUSTED! I was curious about what an actual tin roof on a bus would cost - seems to be roughly 4X the price of steel.
The actual roof material of 20 ga. sheet steel might not withstand water so well. I don't think my roof panels are galvanized but I'm not entirely sure. I wonder how long painted sheet steel would hold up as a container of wet dirt. Would the paint hold up forever without really any mechanical action to erode it?
This is a pretty cool idea, though. The structure of a school bus certainly does lend itself easily to conversion to a greenhouse. I wonder if she knows how easy it would be to disconnect a bus body from the chassis and slide it off the back, in case people didn't want a full bus hanging out at their house.
Article says she charges $8000 for one of these conversions.
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05-26-2020, 03:37 AM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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I can not remember who ... but someone did the reverse ... bought a bus being used as a greenhouse. Was that Ronnie? I just can not remember stuff any more.
I suppose that if you use something like elastomeric paint on the inside of the metal pots, it should last forever ... or at least virtually forever.
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05-26-2020, 05:25 AM
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#4
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Yep. That was Ronnie.
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05-26-2020, 05:29 AM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Thank you ECCB! What did he do with it?
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05-26-2020, 05:51 AM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Thank you ECCB! What did he do with it?
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He still has it last time I asked him.
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05-26-2020, 07:32 AM
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#7
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,406
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Yes it was me. Right now it is storage for bus parts. Long term I have a 6-71 DD with a 5 speed manual trans for it.
The bus is a 6 window shorty
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05-26-2020, 07:36 AM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,406
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Here are some pictures, thought I had one with plants in it, but can not find it.
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05-26-2020, 07:46 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
Yes it was me. Right now it is storage for bus parts. Long term I have a 6-71 DD with a 5 speed manual trans for it.
The bus is a 6 window shorty
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thats gona be SWEET!
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05-26-2020, 10:50 AM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
Yes it was me. Right now it is storage for bus parts. Long term I have a 6-71 DD with a 5 speed manual trans for it.
The bus is a 6 window shorty
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6-71DD
You've got me interested . I'll have to follow that build when you get to it.
As far as the green house idea, it's not as bad of an idea as those that cut the roof off and use them as produce haulers. Although I don't think the sheet steel will last as garden boxes like they have them. Maybe a coat of por15 will help with to stop that.
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05-26-2020, 09:21 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
Yes it was me. Right now it is storage for bus parts. Long term I have a 6-71 DD with a 5 speed manual trans for it.
The bus is a 6 window shorty
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Are you building a street rod? That 6-71DD looks HUGE ... I suppose you have an extra-large shoe horn to make it fit in there! I want to follow that build as well. Perhaps come by and help since I'll eventually be moving closer to y'all. Not too close, mind you.
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05-27-2020, 07:05 AM
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#12
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,406
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Are you building a street rod? That 6-71DD looks HUGE ... I suppose you have an extra-large shoe horn to make it fit in there! I want to follow that build as well. Perhaps come by and help since I'll eventually be moving closer to y'all. Not too close, mind you.
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I am sure a bit of firewall trimming will be needed.... As far as doing a street rod, not sure if I will go with that theme, maybe street rod tractor trailer theme, stacks, a Peterbilt hood/fenders would be nice. The DD is rated at 270hp.
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05-27-2020, 07:11 AM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
I am sure a bit of firewall trimming will be needed.... As far as doing a street rod, not sure if I will go with that theme, maybe street rod tractor trailer theme, stacks, a Peterbilt hood/fenders would be nice. The DD is rated at 270hp.
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That sounds dreamy, Ronnie! Make it as "Semi" as you can!
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05-27-2020, 05:44 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
I am sure a bit of firewall trimming will be needed.... As far as doing a street rod, not sure if I will go with that theme, maybe street rod tractor trailer theme, stacks, a Peterbilt hood/fenders would be nice. The DD is rated at 270hp.
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Rated at 270HP ... how much torgue?
Are you going to apply any performance enhancements?
I'm with ECCB ... making it look like a semi rig would look great.
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05-27-2020, 06:17 PM
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#15
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,406
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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At 270hp I do not plan any performance enhancements. Not sure what the torque is.
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05-27-2020, 06:50 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,245
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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According to Eaton the 671 develops 230hp @ 2100 rpm and 611 ft lbs torque @ 1600 rpm while the 671T develops 275 hp @ 2100 rpm and 853 ft lbs torque @1200 rpm. There are a bunch of engines rated here to look at.
Jack
Eaton site: https://www.eaton.com/content/dam/ea...-engine-en.pdf
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05-27-2020, 07:16 PM
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#17
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,406
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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It depends on what injectors are in it as well. The data tag on it says Model 6L-71N 4V. I was mistaken about 270hp it says 250 hp. no torque value shown on the data tag.
The 4V indicates a 4 valve head.
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05-27-2020, 09:25 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Didn't know they'd built em in 4v. Cool!
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05-27-2020, 10:23 PM
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#19
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,406
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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Had a 4valve in one of my 47 Dodge trucks. No it was not original. I put it in there. If in doubt put a detroit in it
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