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05-17-2010, 09:41 PM
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Bus Geek
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Location: Roswell, NM
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Re: Who here has tiled their floors?
My Dad was a tile setter for 50 years. David & I have laid ceramic tile (among other things) for about 20 yrs. So I might know a little bit about tile...
Slate (like marble) is a fragile tile. It tends to separate in layers, unlike marble which will crack along the "veining". Travertine is also a bad choice for a floor that flexes (like a plywood substrate... or a bus). You can buy a porcelain tile that looks like slate but will hold up much better. Porcelain tile is a tough tile. To lay tile on a flexible floor, you need to use a tile adhesive that states it is for a flexible floor such as plywood. Grouts can have an admix (for flexibility) added to it... others have it added already... Sell the slate and buy a good ceramic tile (6X6, 8X8, or 10X10... no larger... I personally would not go larger than 8X8... others would disagree).
PolyBlend
http://www.custombuildingproducts.co...er=diy&lang=en
http://www.homedepot.com/Flooring-Ti...atalogId=10053
Laticrete --- Laticrete went thru a phase of their products failing. I do not know if they have fixed this problem or not. We tended to use the PolyBlend materials more often as we liked the way the grout handled... in other words, I can grout a floor in faster with PolyBlend than the Laticrete. I also like the PolyBlend grout colours better. But that is subjective... I like to work Wilsonart brand plastic laminate over Formica brand. Others would disagree.
http://www.laticrete.com/homeowners/...ed_mortar.aspx
http://www.lowes.com/pd_255412-73069...rea1-_-31113_5
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05-18-2010, 02:55 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Re: Who here has tiled their floors?
In JBIV, I used 6x6 porcelain tile, that looked like slate, on a good v-troweled thinset bed (I used Bostik 2200TS, a transportation-grade adhesive). This adhesive provides a tough, flexible bond ("tenacious bond" per the specification sheet). Also, it doesn't break unless stetched about 200%. Originally, JBIV had 12x12 ceramic without a good thinset bed, so the large size and lack of distributed support resulted in many cracked tiles.
In the current install, I have just seen the first 2 tiles crack after 7 months, but it is apparently the result of someone really stomping the hell out of one (while the other had a corner cutout). Even so, it is difficult to see the cracks. So difficult to see the cracks, that I'm not worried about replacing them, indefinitely. I tested one tile before installing them by wedging it under the jacuzzi that I had just removed, and lifted the jacuzzi up, and the tile didn't break or crack. So, as said in an earlier post by lornaschinke, porcelain is very tough.
I wouldn't do natural slate if I were you. Very brittle stuff.
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05-18-2010, 04:30 PM
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Bus Geek
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Re: Who here has tiled their floors?
Quote:
Originally Posted by PURA VIDA
Lorna,
...what about using slate or marble or granite for a backsplash in the kitchen or bathroom of the bus? And what do you think about using wood flooring (tongue and groove)...
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I think that granite, marble (especially that tumbled garbage) & slate are highly over rated. Like I said, go with a porcelain tile or a mosaic if you must have marble/slate. As for a real wood floor... I love a wood floor. That is what we want in the bus. Unfortunately, I will be stuck with plain plywood decking for a while. We will just be converting the bus to the point to where we can move into it. I only have a few months to do this plus I also have to do some work on the Class C... my daughter gets it and it needs work before we leave out of NM at the end of August. PLUS I really need to build a mobile kitchen before we leave NM. Somehow I think I will run out of time. I can do some work while in a campground. I've done "stealth remodeling" in campgrounds before.
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08-26-2020, 09:10 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lornaschinske
My Dad was a tile setter for 50 years. David & I have laid ceramic tile (among other things) for about 20 yrs. So I might know a little bit about tile...
Slate (like marble) is a fragile tile. It tends to separate in layers, unlike marble which will crack along the "veining". Travertine is also a bad choice for a floor that flexes (like a plywood substrate... or a bus). You can buy a porcelain tile that looks like slate but will hold up much better. Porcelain tile is a tough tile. To lay tile on a flexible floor, you need to use a tile adhesive that states it is for a flexible floor such as plywood. Grouts can have an admix (for flexibility) added to it... others have it added already... Sell the slate and buy a good ceramic tile (6X6, 8X8, or 10X10... no larger... I personally would not go larger than 8X8... others would disagree).
PolyBlend
http://www.custombuildingproducts.co...er=diy&lang=en
http://www.homedepot.com/Flooring-Ti...atalogId=10053
Laticrete --- Laticrete went thru a phase of their products failing. I do not know if they have fixed this problem or not. We tended to use the PolyBlend materials more often as we liked the way the grout handled... in other words, I can grout a floor in faster with PolyBlend than the Laticrete. I also like the PolyBlend grout colours better. But that is subjective... I like to work Wilsonart brand plastic laminate over Formica brand. Others would disagree.
http://www.laticrete.com/homeowners/...ed_mortar.aspx
http://www.lowes.com/pd_255412-73069...rea1-_-31113_5
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Could I get your opinion (and your dad's) regarding the suitability of this porcelain tile for the floor of a skoolie?
There are specs under Description (that is Greek to me).
I love the look of the floor, but it would be too pricy to find out later down the road that it was a mistake.
If we use a flexible grout on plywood, would that work...and would this be waterproof in case of spills if we tiled wall to wall before installing cabinets and walls? Thanks for any advice.
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08-26-2020, 09:12 PM
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Bus Geek
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The secret is flexible grout, avoid large tiles.
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08-27-2020, 01:21 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
The secret is flexible grout, avoid large tiles. 
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Thank you. Would the tiles I linked above be too big? And do you recommend a specific flexible grout?
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08-27-2020, 03:10 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2020
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