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05-20-2019, 09:17 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Medicine hat
Posts: 44
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: International 3800
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Wonderful findings
So I'm waiting on the weather to get with the program of the floor clean and painting job I want to get done and move on. ( Or for the tax return to get here lol ) but anyway I have found a leaky window! 😑😡🤬 They were all fine and good when I got the bus, but I do see it needs some silicone attention. Just more work on the floor when I thought I was off my knees!! 😭 Was going to krudd kutter the grinded floor than a rust paint armor coat flat black after I dried the floor. After paint plan is to cover and seal up holes with silicone and sheats of metal recovered from bus demolition. I got the floor frame material for free two weeks ago. 1x1 or something I just need mother nature to give the green light. The krudd kutter says needs a temp of 21°© (70°F) this week's temp high is 16°© 😖 have any of you used this stuff on cold metal? Results differ?
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05-20-2019, 10:13 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 90sKidFatherNow
So I'm waiting on the weather to get with the program of the floor clean and painting job I want to get done and move on. ( Or for the tax return to get here lol ) but anyway I have found a leaky window! 😑😡🤬 They were all fine and good when I got the bus, but I do see it needs some silicone attention. Just more work on the floor when I thought I was off my knees!! 😭 Was going to krudd kutter the grinded floor than a rust paint armor coat flat black after I dried the floor. After paint plan is to cover and seal up holes with silicone and sheats of metal recovered from bus demolition. I got the floor frame material for free two weeks ago. 1x1 or something I just need mother nature to give the green light. The krudd kutter says needs a temp of 21°© (70°F) this week's temp high is 16°© 😖 have any of you used this stuff on cold metal? Results differ?
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krudd kutter is just a cleanser with not that great reviews - it's not going to do anything to combat rust, and on bare metal I wouldn't bet against it causing a bloom - I'd suggest using something like Ospho to treat the rust, sweep it off after it dries, then paint with a rust inhibiting primer, then a top coat of a rust preventative paint
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05-20-2019, 11:30 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Medicine hat
Posts: 44
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: International 3800
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer
krudd kutter is just a cleanser with not that great reviews - it's not going to do anything to combat rust, and on bare metal I wouldn't bet against it causing a bloom - I'd suggest using something like Ospho to treat the rust, sweep it off after it dries, then paint with a rust inhibiting primer, then a top coat of a rust preventative paint
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Ok thank you for the tip I'll look into that
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05-20-2019, 11:33 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Medicine hat
Posts: 44
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: International 3800
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Thought I took a picture of the window out and all cleaned up but I guess not lol. But I took out the leaky one and cleaned off the old silicone and put a bead around the three edges and the outside some more should be good now... But the rest of them 😫
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05-20-2019, 11:34 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 90sKidFatherNow
Thought I took a picture of the window out and all cleaned up but I guess not lol. But I took out the leaky one and cleaned off the old silicone and put a bead around the three edges and the outside some more should be good now... But the rest of them 😫
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did you seal where the glass meets the frame? - that's often a trouble area
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05-20-2019, 11:58 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Medicine hat
Posts: 44
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: International 3800
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer
did you seal where the glass meets the frame? - that's often a trouble area
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I didn't reseal the part where the glass meets its frame just where the window unit meets the bus, that's where I found the silicone skrunk and was holding water under that window specifically. Now I'm on a outside sealing spree
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05-20-2019, 12:17 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 90sKidFatherNow
I didn't reseal the part where the glass meets its frame just where the window unit meets the bus, that's where I found the silicone skrunk and was holding water under that window specifically. Now I'm on a outside sealing spree
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you can test that with a hose
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05-20-2019, 04:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brevard County, FL
Posts: 911
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Ford
Engine: 6.6 New Holland Diesel
Rated Cap: 60 kids, 10 window
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I suggest against silicone caulking. You want a urethane or polyurethane caulking to seal it up
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05-20-2019, 04:40 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninjakitty
I suggest against silicone caulking. You want a urethane or polyurethane caulking to seal it up
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Silicone has no place on a bus!
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05-20-2019, 04:46 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Medicine hat
Posts: 44
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: International 3800
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Silicone has no place on a bus!
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Ok will switch it up
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05-20-2019, 05:45 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Silicone has no place on a bus!
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Well, except for that black bus with the stripper's pole! Bet some silicone was slang 'round there...
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05-20-2019, 08:39 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 90sKidFatherNow
Ok will switch it up
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Dynatron-550 is your friend. Autozone seems to have the best price, around $15. It's grey, Dynatron-570 is the same stuff in white (both are paintable).
I'm thinking that once upon a time there was a Dynatron-560 which was black, but there seems to be no black version of this stuff (my windows are black which would make it convenient). Anybody know if there's a black Dynatron? I'm not talking about the '70s comic book hero.
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05-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Medicine hat
Posts: 44
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: International 3800
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
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So the silicone I put on yesterday seemed to do great and keep the water out during today's raining!! might be a dumb question but why is silicone bad?is it just not going to last as long?
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