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12-04-2019, 02:07 PM
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#1
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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7.3 Shorties in CA (a bunch!)
Lots of running, nice 7.3 shorties on Public Surplus.
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/br...aucs?catid=402
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12-04-2019, 04:07 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 638
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: 3126b 210hp
Rated Cap: 48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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And those scrap/stripped busses in AZ. I could get $305 worth of stuff off of one of those bf I sold it for scrap metal. You guys looking for AC units might want to take a look.
Dave
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12-04-2019, 04:55 PM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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These will go cheap to a dealer.
Then in summer folks will come on here asking if $5000 for a rusty one in Nebraska is a good deal.
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12-04-2019, 05:20 PM
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#4
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Fresnope, CA
Posts: 154
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Considering bidding on more than one. What if I win 2 or 3?
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"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" - Phillip K. Dick
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12-05-2019, 04:53 PM
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#5
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 36
Year: 1997
Chassis: E-450 Collins
Engine: 7.3l Diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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Thanks for the heads up!
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12-05-2019, 04:59 PM
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#6
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 119
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner
Engine: MBE 906 Mercedes Benz Diesel
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Yeah, but I just drove across the country... driving one of those shorties across is just bad timing... too bad, they seem to be in decent shape, assuming you don't need to replace tires.
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12-05-2019, 07:11 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Sandpoint, ID
Posts: 560
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Girardin Microbird MB-IV
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: 7.3 Diesel
Rated Cap: 25
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Looks like most have DPF systems even though only 2003 models. I would assume that is a concern from what I've read. Easy to overcome?
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12-05-2019, 08:09 PM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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They're almost surely add on dpf's.
Are these being sold because they can't keep em unless they retrofit newer engines? OR is that just larger diesels?
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12-05-2019, 09:09 PM
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#9
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Fresnope, CA
Posts: 154
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
They're almost surely add on dpf's.
Are these being sold because they can't keep em unless they retrofit newer engines? OR is that just larger diesels?
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Pretty sure the law applies to ALL diesel powered fleet vehicles.
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12-05-2019, 09:27 PM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Easier for them to sell these than try to retrofit a fleet of vans. Probably real nice lil buses.
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12-18-2019, 11:00 PM
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#11
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 44
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: MicroBird
Engine: 7.3L powerstroke
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New rules kick in Jan 1st for California Diesel.
"...Starting January 1, 2020, SB1 only allows vehicles compliant with this regulation to be registered by the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)."
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12-18-2019, 11:07 PM
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#12
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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They could've been sitting there for a few years after the CARB laws were passed.
Either way they're in really nice shape and the best motor you can get in a van cutaway.
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12-19-2019, 04:03 PM
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#13
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Corvallis Oregon
Posts: 133
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cat3126
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Bluebird Vision good bus?
I was just reading in another thread that the Vision wasn’t their favorite bus...top heavy, unpleasant ride, and engine access isn’t the best. What are your thoughts on the Vision?
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12-19-2019, 04:37 PM
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#14
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaleth2
I was just reading in another thread that the Vision wasn’t their favorite bus...top heavy, unpleasant ride, and engine access isn’t the best. What are your thoughts on the Vision?
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I've been driving All American FEs at my current job for the last 5 years now. Drove Visions a few times. Not a huge fan of them, the driving position is super awkward especially on the 1st gen ones. For awhile they were using the same steering wheel + dashboard gauges found in the Volvo trucks of that era.
The ones I drove had rear air suspension and the ride wasn't noticeably worse than the AAFEs. Base model ones with leaf springs on the rear probably ride a lot rougher.
The propane ones are very slow. The Cummins 6.7 diesel ones were fine. Engine access is decent but I prefer an RE since then the motor is at arms reach instead of balancing on a front tire like you would with a conventional.
I realize most of my experience here is from a driver's perspective and not from a skoolie owner's eyes but take it as you will.
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12-19-2019, 05:26 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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BB Visions have a pretty shitty reputation from what I understand.
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12-19-2019, 07:54 PM
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#16
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Lake Geneva, Wisconsin
Posts: 415
Year: 2008
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner HDX
Engine: CAT C7 300hp w/retarder
Rated Cap: 46 + 1 36,200 lbs
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Most of the busses are currently around $1000 or less. Then I see a 2003 Bluebird RE with the Cummins ISX, and of course it's at $5000 and the reserve hasn't been met yet. I see motorhomes of that vintage and configured with that engine asking $45,000. I think I know what the folks want. https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2492240
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12-19-2019, 11:38 PM
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#17
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchtech
Most of the busses are currently around $1000 or less. Then I see a 2003 Bluebird RE with the Cummins ISX, and of course it's at $5000 and the reserve hasn't been met yet. I see motorhomes of that vintage and configured with that engine asking $45,000. I think I know what the folks want. https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2492240
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I have a 2001 AARE thats basically the same as that bus except its a little longer and has 2 more understorage compartments. I paid $4k for mine (had some rear cap damage, nothing serious).
If you take your time and be prepared to travel anywhere. Those All Americans are nice, to me they are the best bus you can get short of a vintage Crown or Gillig.
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12-28-2019, 08:49 PM
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#18
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 192
Year: 2002
Chassis: Ford e450
Engine: 7.3 Powerstroke
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Sorry if this is a newbie question, but how many miles is too high for a diesel shortie such as these in ca? The lowest is 155.
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12-29-2019, 09:04 AM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,007
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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if those shorties are 7.3 / T444E and haver DPF it can be easily deleted.. the ECM(IH) / PCM(ford) doesnt have the capability of a DPF so it means it cant disable the engine if you delete it.. the way those aftermarket DPF's were "Regen" was in such a way to not hurt the engine so those can be brought back to their original glory pretty easily...
interesting Tidbit.. I was at a bus dealer with a friend on friday (for those that hate on dealers.. we were out the door with an A3RE, cat C7 / MD3060 with 105k original miles less than 5000 hours.. very little rust for 2k total... was a local trade in... beautiful running bus..).. anyway they had a couple late 90s gasser GMC / CV200s.. they are now on their way to california.. with these new diesel regs.. churches / schools, etc are scouring the internet for older gasoline busses from the late 90s / early 00's. because apparently those will pass the emission standards and can be run whereas the diesels cant...
-Christopher
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01-06-2020, 07:42 PM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 895
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Who bought one? I know someone here must've
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