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Old 12-04-2019, 01:07 PM   #1
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7.3 Shorties in CA (a bunch!)

Lots of running, nice 7.3 shorties on Public Surplus.
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/br...aucs?catid=402
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:07 PM   #2
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Lots of running, nice 7.3 shorties on Public Surplus.

https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/br...aucs?catid=402


And those scrap/stripped busses in AZ. I could get $305 worth of stuff off of one of those bf I sold it for scrap metal. You guys looking for AC units might want to take a look.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:55 PM   #3
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These will go cheap to a dealer.
Then in summer folks will come on here asking if $5000 for a rusty one in Nebraska is a good deal.
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:20 PM   #4
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Considering bidding on more than one. What if I win 2 or 3?
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:53 PM   #5
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Lots of running, nice 7.3 shorties on Public Surplus.
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/br...aucs?catid=402
Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:59 PM   #6
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Yeah, but I just drove across the country... driving one of those shorties across is just bad timing... too bad, they seem to be in decent shape, assuming you don't need to replace tires.
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:11 PM   #7
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Looks like most have DPF systems even though only 2003 models. I would assume that is a concern from what I've read. Easy to overcome?
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:09 PM   #8
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They're almost surely add on dpf's.
Are these being sold because they can't keep em unless they retrofit newer engines? OR is that just larger diesels?
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:09 PM   #9
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They're almost surely add on dpf's.
Are these being sold because they can't keep em unless they retrofit newer engines? OR is that just larger diesels?
Pretty sure the law applies to ALL diesel powered fleet vehicles.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:27 PM   #10
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Easier for them to sell these than try to retrofit a fleet of vans. Probably real nice lil buses.
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:00 PM   #11
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New rules kick in Jan 1st for California Diesel.

"...Starting January 1, 2020, SB1 only allows vehicles compliant with this regulation to be registered by the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)."
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:07 PM   #12
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They could've been sitting there for a few years after the CARB laws were passed.

Either way they're in really nice shape and the best motor you can get in a van cutaway.
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Old 12-19-2019, 03:03 PM   #13
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Bluebird Vision good bus?

I was just reading in another thread that the Vision wasnít their favorite bus...top heavy, unpleasant ride, and engine access isnít the best. What are your thoughts on the Vision?
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I was just reading in another thread that the Vision wasnít their favorite bus...top heavy, unpleasant ride, and engine access isnít the best. What are your thoughts on the Vision?
I've been driving All American FEs at my current job for the last 5 years now. Drove Visions a few times. Not a huge fan of them, the driving position is super awkward especially on the 1st gen ones. For awhile they were using the same steering wheel + dashboard gauges found in the Volvo trucks of that era.

The ones I drove had rear air suspension and the ride wasn't noticeably worse than the AAFEs. Base model ones with leaf springs on the rear probably ride a lot rougher.

The propane ones are very slow. The Cummins 6.7 diesel ones were fine. Engine access is decent but I prefer an RE since then the motor is at arms reach instead of balancing on a front tire like you would with a conventional.

I realize most of my experience here is from a driver's perspective and not from a skoolie owner's eyes but take it as you will.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:26 PM   #15
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BB Visions have a pretty shitty reputation from what I understand.
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Old 12-19-2019, 06:54 PM   #16
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Most of the busses are currently around $1000 or less. Then I see a 2003 Bluebird RE with the Cummins ISX, and of course it's at $5000 and the reserve hasn't been met yet. I see motorhomes of that vintage and configured with that engine asking $45,000. I think I know what the folks want. https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2492240
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:38 PM   #17
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Most of the busses are currently around $1000 or less. Then I see a 2003 Bluebird RE with the Cummins ISX, and of course it's at $5000 and the reserve hasn't been met yet. I see motorhomes of that vintage and configured with that engine asking $45,000. I think I know what the folks want. https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2492240
I have a 2001 AARE thats basically the same as that bus except its a little longer and has 2 more understorage compartments. I paid $4k for mine (had some rear cap damage, nothing serious).

If you take your time and be prepared to travel anywhere. Those All Americans are nice, to me they are the best bus you can get short of a vintage Crown or Gillig.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:49 PM   #18
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Sorry if this is a newbie question, but how many miles is too high for a diesel shortie such as these in ca? The lowest is 155.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:04 AM   #19
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if those shorties are 7.3 / T444E and haver DPF it can be easily deleted.. the ECM(IH) / PCM(ford) doesnt have the capability of a DPF so it means it cant disable the engine if you delete it.. the way those aftermarket DPF's were "Regen" was in such a way to not hurt the engine so those can be brought back to their original glory pretty easily...



interesting Tidbit.. I was at a bus dealer with a friend on friday (for those that hate on dealers.. we were out the door with an A3RE, cat C7 / MD3060 with 105k original miles less than 5000 hours.. very little rust for 2k total... was a local trade in... beautiful running bus..).. anyway they had a couple late 90s gasser GMC / CV200s.. they are now on their way to california.. with these new diesel regs.. churches / schools, etc are scouring the internet for older gasoline busses from the late 90s / early 00's. because apparently those will pass the emission standards and can be run whereas the diesels cant...


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Who bought one? I know someone here must've
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