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11-25-2017, 07:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,504
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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99 international raised roof
Found this on craigslist, not mine or anybody I know.
https://pennstate.craigslist.org/rvs...376595929.html
later J
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11-25-2017, 08:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I swear that bus looks familiar from here..
-Christopher
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11-25-2017, 08:09 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblack5
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Man, that transition is rough!
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11-26-2017, 01:49 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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check out the 200 gallon water tank on the ceiling for gravity flow.
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11-26-2017, 02:48 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
check out the 200 gallon water tank on the ceiling for gravity flow.
Attachment 17435
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Cringe-o-rama!
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11-26-2017, 02:49 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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is it bad to have the water up there?
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11-26-2017, 02:52 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
is it bad to have the water up there?
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yeah, this is a total hack job in every sense of the word.
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11-26-2017, 03:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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High mounted water tanks are a pet peave of the insurance companies in converted buses.
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Nobody's Business
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11-26-2017, 03:17 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
is it bad to have the water up there?
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It's fine if you don't mind a potential 1700 lb load at the highest point of your tall vehicle
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11-26-2017, 04:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 502
Year: 92
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 5.9L
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
It's fine if you don't mind a potential 1700 lb load at the highest point of your tall vehicle
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especially after a 2' 6" raise on the thing!
i just assume that maybe they dont drive with water in it.
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11-26-2017, 04:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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The hippies commonly put their water tanks on the roof to avoid the use of water pumps. Actually they put lots of things on the roofs making their top heavy vehicles even more top heavy. Combine that issue with inexperienced drivers and you can understand why insurance companies are concerned about their profit/cost from accidents.
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Nobody's Business
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11-26-2017, 04:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BurlKing
especially after a 2' 6" raise on the thing!
i just assume that maybe they dont drive with water in it.
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I never carried more than about 20 gallons of water in RV tanks, while moving .... but there are those times
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11-26-2017, 04:26 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Pensacola, Fl
Posts: 122
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: not sure
Engine: Catepillar 3126B not Cummins
Rated Cap: not sure
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I've wondered about whether if its better to elevate the tank or not so you can get better flow as compared to having it either inside the bus or even underneath it.
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11-26-2017, 04:33 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skytz
I've wondered about whether if its better to elevate the tank or not so you can get better flow as compared to having it either inside the bus or even underneath it.
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The basic rules is to keep all heavy weights as low as possible, and between the axles, if possible.
Water tanks are usually put under a bed or sofa. Often they are behind the rear axle, but that's a compromise you can live with. A water pump is used to pressurize the system.
If you plan your layout to work with this, the pipe runs are short and all on one side. So if, for example, you want a split shower/toilet across the aisle, use a composting toilet on the passenger side and the shower opposite, on the driver's side ... same side as the kitchen sink.
That way you don't need a blackwater tank and the sink and shower are both close to the grey water tank. If you want your urine diverter to empty to the grey water tank, either have it on the same side as the shower and tie in the plumbing, or prepare to run it across the bus.
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11-26-2017, 04:50 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Pensacola, Fl
Posts: 122
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: not sure
Engine: Catepillar 3126B not Cummins
Rated Cap: not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
The basic rules is to keep all heavy weights as low as possible, and between the axles, if possible.
Water tanks are usually put under a bed or sofa. Often they are behind the rear axle, but that's a compromise you can live with. A water pump is used to pressurize the system.
If you plan your layout to work with this, the pipe runs are short and all on one side. So if, for example, you want a split shower/toilet across the aisle, use a composting toilet on the passenger side and the shower opposite, on the driver's side ... same side as the kitchen sink.
That way you don't need a blackwater tank and the sink and shower are both close to the grey water tank. If you want your urine diverter to empty to the grey water tank, either have it on the same side as the shower and tie in the plumbing, or prepare to run it across the bus.
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If you follow this link, you'll see how I want to set it up. The tank will be in the back, under the bed. The bathroom is right next to it and it will have a composting toilet. Here's my question: should the tank be situated next to the wall on the driver's side to make it easier to fill it up? Or on the wall that is sharing the with the bathroom? Also how do you run the lines so it will be on the inside to keep it from freezing based on my layout? I know that nobody is using this setup, cause I found it on an Italian website. It intrigued me because based on all the layouts I've seen, they all look like nothing but one long, narrow corridor.
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/st...tml#post235455
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11-26-2017, 04:54 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skytz
If you follow this link, you'll see how I want to set it up. The tank will be in the back, under the bed. The bathroom is right next to it and it will have a composting toilet. Here's my question: should the tank be situated next to the wall on the driver's side to make it easier to fill it up? Or on the wall that is sharing the with the bathroom? Also how do you run the lines so it will be on the inside to keep it from freezing based on my layout? I know that nobody is using this setup, cause I found it on an Italian website. It intrigued me because based on all the layouts I've seen, they all look like nothing but one long, narrow corridor.
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/st...tml#post235455
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Keep the tank either central, or on the opposite side to other heavy items. There is no problem filling it. You fit an access hatch for water-fill and city water on the driver's side, and a 1 1/2" pipe runs to a fitting at the top of the tank. Usually a smaller bore pipe runs back to the same skin fitting. It's an air-vent. When water spurts out, your tank is full.
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11-26-2017, 05:09 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Pensacola, Fl
Posts: 122
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: not sure
Engine: Catepillar 3126B not Cummins
Rated Cap: not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Keep the tank either central, or on the opposite side to other heavy items. There is no problem filling it. You fit an access hatch for water-fill and city water on the driver's side, and a 1 1/2" pipe runs to a fitting at the top of the tank. Usually a smaller bore pipe runs back to the same skin fitting. It's an air-vent. When water spurts out, your tank is full.
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Ok, thanks for the tlp. Will be awhile before I get to that point. Still trying to gut the bus. What do you think of the layout? Is it doable? One other question, I thought the kitchen and the bathroom was suppose to be on opposite sides to help balance the bus.
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