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Old 04-02-2021, 08:04 PM   #1
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Blue bird school bus 30'

1996 Blue Bird 30'
460,000 miles
5.9 Cummings/Auto
new tires on front/60 rear tires
NO Rust
runs great, drives great, ready to build
Great Maintenance
everything works like it should
This is a CA bus no salt in ca

$7,500 come drive it home
661-703-9220
thanks for looking

i also have a 1994 Carpenter 30' bus too
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Old 04-02-2021, 08:56 PM   #2
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Is milage accurate at 460,000 or a typo?
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Old 04-02-2021, 09:24 PM   #3
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The mileage reads that so im not sure if its had a motor change or not. I wasn't able to get any paperwork on its history. Its runs great and sounds great lots of power....
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Old 04-02-2021, 09:46 PM   #4
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The mileage reads that so im not sure if its had a motor change or not. I wasn't able to get any paperwork on its history. Its runs great and sounds great lots of power....
I'm not concerned, just verifying. The 5.9 is a great engine.
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Old 04-02-2021, 09:55 PM   #5
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Yes 5.9 Cummings! I agree ��
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:40 PM   #6
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460k miles? $7,500 is entirely too much money, whether the mileage is accurate or not.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:24 PM   #7
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Well thats your opinion. As far a CA these buses are getting hard and harder to get here they are crushing them for a buy back for the schools. There not cheap anymore.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:32 PM   #8
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What are the specs, price, etc. on the Carpenter?
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:48 PM   #9
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The ad is on here for the Carpenter
5.9 Cummings/ Auto
416,000
7,500
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Old 04-03-2021, 03:25 AM   #10
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460k miles? $7,500 is entirely too much money, whether the mileage is accurate or not.
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Well thats your opinion. As far a CA these buses are getting hard and harder to get here they are crushing them for a buy back for the schools. There not cheap anymore.
Harder and harder to get soon leads to harder and harder to get parts for. Would you want to pay top dollar for something that might be a problem getting parts and repairs for when needed? Just saying...
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:29 AM   #11
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Buyer Beware

...of the facts discussed in so many other threads.

Such as....


* Skoolie Fair Market Value: Deal, Steal or Dud?

* Fair value of our builds

* Is it worth it?

* How many miles is too many miles?

* Hours vs Miles, or average MPH and why it is important
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Old 04-07-2021, 10:43 PM   #12
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Even if it is in mint condition, the price is way too high. Maybe $3,500. There are so many busses out there with less than 200k miles that are going for less than $5k. Sorry, way over priced.
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:09 AM   #13
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1996 Blue Bird 30'
460,000 miles
5.9 Cummings/Auto
new tires on front/60 rear tires
NO Rust
runs great, drives great, ready to build
Great Maintenance
everything works like it should
This is a CA bus no salt in ca

$7,500 come drive it home
661-703-9220
thanks for looking

i also have a 1994 Carpenter 30' bus too
California dreaming going on I think. Nearly half a million miles on that bus. Way too much money.
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:29 PM   #14
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Harder and harder to get soon leads to harder and harder to get parts for. Would you want to pay top dollar for something that might be a problem getting parts and repairs for when needed? Just saying...
Maybe you could point to the parts that would be difficult to come by.? Don't know that there is much proprietary with either Bus. And for the most part use Class 8 and Class 7 truck parts.

Both are fully mechanical. The high mileage bothers me more in the drive train realm. But then steering components may be well worn .....wheel bearings and seals etc. Pretty much depends on how well these things were maintained.

On the plus side these short transit platforms are a rapidly vanishing breed. And fully mechanical. Rather than dismiss these buses out of hand. They are buses that I would be very leary to purchase without very very thorough and knowledgeable inspections of systems and points of wear. As well as a very comprehensive oil analysis. If these things
Not abused and maintained I see no reason why they wouldn't be a good investment.
The Cummins 5.9 in these iterations is highly rated by many sites as the Number 1 engine in the last 30 years. Both Buses used a proprietary chassis. Both Galvanized and Aluminum skins. 22.5 inch tires and have air brakes. And are safer than any fiberglass Ford product. And as to the post regarding the availability of "a lot if buses" with half the miles for have the price."
That's pretty generic a response. The education would come from a real head to head comparison:. Putting up one of these "better value buses" in direct comparison with either of the two offered by the OP.

7500 bucks is kind of a magic number.
At those dollars one can nearly step up into the highway bus category. Heavy Duty engines and chassis designed for many millions of miles with large basements for house systems.....and designed for highway driving. Long post. But there's no short way to simplify all the existent options. And the many many ways these options are viewed in the context of perceived need. In the context of a broad and or limited library and awareness of the end user and their desires.
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Old 04-08-2021, 06:09 PM   #15
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Guaranteed to have the most sought after transmission, the AT 545. Half a million miles on one of those is nothing.
I bought a 99 International Genesis Am Tran with a DT466 and MD3060.Cruises at 85mph. For $3500, just saying. It's the most expensive of the 5 buses I've bought and sold in the last 2 years. None near $7500.
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Old 04-08-2021, 06:34 PM   #16
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Who knows what the OP will actually sell this bus for when all is said and done?

The skoolie/tiny house craze/fad is still raging strong in the country and until it abates, prices will likely stay higher than what some are used to paying for a "base" bus.

I think the price is high personally but times have changed whether we agree or not.

Another ditty to consider: Think about the people who've bought rustbuckets for $3,500 only to pour another $3~4k into fixing the bus before starting their conversion, and this bus becomes more realistically priced, all things considered.

Good luck on your sale OP, and please post up when it sells so folks 2 years from now aren't still asking if it's still for sale!
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:00 PM   #17
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Guaranteed to have the most sought after transmission, the AT 545. Half a million miles on one of those is nothing.
I bought a 99 International Genesis Am Tran with a DT466 and MD3060.Cruises at 85mph. For $3500, just saying. It's the most expensive of the 5 buses I've bought and sold in the last 2 years. None near $7500.

And is your International Genesis with the DT466E and the MD. Between 26 and 28 ft long? That is pretty much what holds any interest for either of these high mileage buses. They are sub 3O Ft.
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Old 04-15-2021, 08:18 AM   #18
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Even if it is in mint condition, the price is way too high. Maybe $3,500. There are so many busses out there with less than 200k miles that are going for less than $5k. Sorry, way over priced.
where do you find these busses for around $3500, everything I keep seeing is in the $7000+ range
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Old 04-15-2021, 11:05 AM   #19
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where do you find these busses for around $3500, everything I keep seeing is in the $7000+ range
We bought our International Amtrans Re With a T444E 142000 miles for 1880.00 on Public Surplus auction from the Gilbert school system in Arizona.
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Old 04-15-2021, 05:02 PM   #20
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where do you find these busses for around $3500, everything I keep seeing is in the $7000+ range
I just sold a 90 with 105,000 28'
Transit style TC2000 with the 12 valve.
I went through the expense of having a 3.54 rear end put in it. Was a 4.48...
Buyer is very very pleased. Sweet little bus.
Sold it at 15K....Did I rip the guy off?
I don't think so. Does he think so? No. He got exactly what he wanted and waited so long for it. The Buses in question with their high mileage can be looked at in a couple ways for sure They may be worn out or they may have been well maintained. Only way to know for sure is to see them or have them seen by someone competent. Oil analysis would be imperative.
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