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Old 04-18-2020, 01:40 PM   #1
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Does anybody want these things that looknlike roof raising hardware?

I found these things that look like roof raising hardware. For legal reasons I can’t tell whether they would actually be safe for raising a bus roof. But they look very similar. It looks like 1” All-Thread with 1/4” brackets.

Does anybody want these? All you need to do is prepay the package and shipping, which still might be pretty pricy since these things aren’t light.

Or pickup in Houston could work too.

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Hello! I bought my bus in Houston! I'm in Jacksonville and am planning on doing my roof raise in the next few weeks. Is there some way you could find out what the shipping cost would be to zip code 32211? Thanks!
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those are definitely for a raise. But idk if they're worth shipping. heck of a find!
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The company out of Colorado where I am getting my channel-hat metal from charges $200 to rent these items. If shipping is less than that, it would be worth it to me. My zip is 32211. If there is some way you could find out the shipping cost that would be great! Thanks!
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The company out of Colorado where I am getting my channel-hat metal from charges $200 to rent these items. If shipping is less than that, it would be worth it to me. My zip is 32211. If there is some way you could find out the shipping cost that would be great! Thanks!
Their channel sucks. Find a local shop!
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The company out of Colorado where I am getting my channel-hat metal from charges $200 to rent these items. If shipping is less than that, it would be worth it to me. My zip is 32211. If there is some way you could find out the shipping cost that would be great! Thanks!
If you're up to the task of a roof raise, you can probably fabricate those brackets for way less than $200. And then sell them to a disgruntled CCC customer for $199.
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If you're up to the task of a roof raise, you can probably fabricate those brackets for way less than $200. And then sell them to a disgruntled CCC customer for $199.
Ok don't leave us hanging, what's the deal with somebody getting screwed?
Is this info we need to share?
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Ok don't leave us hanging, what's the deal with somebody getting screwed?
Is this info we need to share?
I don't know if anybody's been necessarily "screwed", but CCC is famous for blowing off communication with their clients for weeks and months. The quality of their work is apparently OK but their ability to meet a schedule or deadline is nonexistent. Given what they overcharge for stuff like hat channel extenders and allthread raising brackets, I assume they also overcharge for their skoolie conversion work.
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Last member here who bought their channel found it didn't fit right. THey posted pics and the channel came welded to the sleeve and only had a little overlap. Not a good product for the money.
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I don't know if anybody's been necessarily "screwed", but CCC is famous for blowing off communication with their clients for weeks and months. The quality of their work is apparently OK but their ability to meet a schedule or deadline is nonexistent. Given what they overcharge for stuff like hat channel extenders and allthread raising brackets, I assume they also overcharge for their skoolie conversion work.
Thanks for clarifying, not looking at a roof raise but good to have that known.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:26 PM   #11
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Last member here who bought their channel found it didn't fit right. THey posted pics and the channel came welded to the sleeve and only had a little overlap. Not a good product for the money.
Thank you sir.
Hope all is well in your hood.
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Old 04-20-2020, 04:50 PM   #12
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Hello! I bought my bus in Houston! I'm in Jacksonville and am planning on doing my roof raise in the next few weeks. Is there some way you could find out what the shipping cost would be to zip code 32211? Thanks!
I’ll grab them this weekend and take them to a pack and ship. If you pay their pack and ship price then I’ll drop these off to there.
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The company out of Colorado where I am getting my channel-hat metal from charges $200 to rent these items. If shipping is less than that, it would be worth it to me. My zip is 32211. If there is some way you could find out the shipping cost that would be great! Thanks!
an opinion?
mine but i weld for a living.
might sound rude but not trying to be at all.
if you think you have enough skills to do a roof raise?
i understand it can get tough to find a company that can and will brake 15-16 guage metal to make hat channel and can almost guarantee its not gonna match perfectly unless they have a piece of yours to match it up to.
sorry back to my point.
once you get your channel and cut everything to raise your roof?
how were you planning on attaching your channel?
this was gonna be a loaded question looking for an answer but i aint at work and wont get an immediate response so ?
my point is?
those roof raiser brackets are made to be welded onto the bus so if you have the skills to weld the brackets onto the bus for you to feel safe enough to raise the roof then why not just by the stuff to make your own?
you dont know if that rod has been tweaked or not and every time any allthread rod gets tweeked and bent back into line it weakens?
still cheaper to by the stuff and make yourself than pay shipping on someone elses stuff and safety wise you dont know if it has been stressed out or not?
but like i said its an opinion of mine?
talk to ECCB lives in florida,has done a roof raise,might have knowledge of a local shop to make your metal and can definitly give you advice.
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Wink Rough cost of raw materials

I must be looking for a little entertainment.

Here are the parts needed to build those ... all from Home Depot (not the best prices, but they have what they have):

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 4 @ 3/4" - 10 x 36" Zinc Plated Threaded Rod [$12.48 each]    $49.92
16 @ 3/4"- 10 Hex Nuts                        [$0.62 each]     $ 9.92
 4 @ 1/4" x 4" x 12" Steel Plate              [$9.92 each]     $39.68
 1 @ 3/4" ID x 48" Black Steel Pipe           [$17.98 each]    $17.98
So that is $117.50 (plus tax) for the parts to build 36" roof raise jacks. Add in your welding equipment costs ... whatever they may be.
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I must be looking for a little entertainment.

Here are the parts needed to build those ... all from Home Depot (not the best prices, but they have what they have):

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 4 @ 3/4" - 10 x 36" Zinc Plated Threaded Rod [$12.48 each]    $49.92
16 @ 3/4"- 10 Hex Nuts                        [$0.62 each]     $ 9.92
 4 @ 1/4" x 4" x 12" Steel Plate              [$9.92 each]     $39.68
 1 @ 3/4" ID x 48" Black Steel Pipe           [$17.98 each]    $17.98
So that is $117.50 (plus tax) for the parts to build 36" roof raise jacks. Add in your welding equipment costs ... whatever they may be.
I can get all the parts for these (except the nuts) for fifty cents a pound at my local metal supply place. It would be fun to make these and sell them. It would not be fun to be sued if one of them failed, which makes me wonder what kind of insurance CCC has as a company.
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I can get all the parts for these (except the nuts) for fifty cents a pound at my local metal supply place. It would be fun to make these and sell them. It would not be fun to be sued if one of them failed, which makes me wonder what kind of insurance CCC has as a company.
I can get them from our local iron yard too ... but not everyone has access to such gems as we do. That is why I chose to use Home Depot as the source.


Of course, I would urge ANYONE considering working on a bus to find a decent iron yard as well as a decent metal supplier (sometimes the same place) and a fabrication shop for the stuff not as easily made in a home shop, like hat channel.


Making them and selling them would be great ... but you are right that there is a product liability factor. From my days of selling scuba diving equipment, I know you can find an insurance company that will sell a product liability policy. I ended up quitting scuba sales when I was paying more for insurance than I was making. he nice thing about a product liability policy is that is covers you for all items (in the policy) that were manufactured while the policy was in effect ... even after the policy expires.
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I'm in Houston, and will be picking up a bus in a couple of months. This would definitely save me some fabrication time if they're still available.
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Last member here who bought their channel found it didn't fit right. THey posted pics and the channel came welded to the sleeve and only had a little overlap. Not a good product for the money.
Unless there was somebody else with this problem ... this mights have been me ....
Wait time took months!
Maybe 2 if I remember right at least 6 weeks ....
The use hotrolled steel .. not even cold rolled ...
wel I’m not to sure but it’s rusting faster then my cold rolled panels do... which is pretty much not rusting ..
the hat is broke accurately and matches factory ... the little overlaps they add need to be redisinged .....
I bought the 16in hats with overlap... that was a 2in c channel welded and sticking out ... I’ll find pics.
I needed up cutting the laps
Off and using 14 1/2 of there hat channel and had a guy I work with brake me some 16g c channels at almost 4ft long to slide inside my joint and then I clamped all together but welded and plug weleded everything to each other ....
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Yeah. Not a good product for the price or aggravation.
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