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01-23-2017, 07:58 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Originally Posted by milkmania
Is single tire rear end typical?
Seems like it'd be light weight
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This one is a 350 chassis. My previous bus was 450 chassis and had double rear tires.
I like the single rear. I don't plan on putting too much weight on it. Also, I think tolls are cheaper.
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01-23-2017, 08:01 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Originally Posted by oricha1984
This one is a 350 chassis. My previous bus was 450 chassis and had double rear tires.
I like the single rear. I don't plan on putting too much weight on it. Also, I think tolls are cheaper.
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Now I get it
Our Oklahoma toll roads charge per axle
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01-23-2017, 08:11 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Extra info, given my bad luck with the transmission last time.
I went to AAMCO trans, I asked about doing a full tranny service and upgrading the cooler system.
The owner/manager there suggested to keep the radiator route, but to add a dual cooler in the front. He said the main thing is to get "back pressure" to get it to cool.
Quote : $450 for installation of dual cooler, another $100-150 for filter, tranny fluid, flush, gasket.
$100-120 for engine oil and filter change. I'm sure they can also change engine air filters.
I'll probably want to have the AC looked at before doing any tranny work.
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01-23-2017, 08:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oricha1984
This one is a 350 chassis. My previous bus was 450 chassis and had double rear tires.
I like the single rear. I don't plan on putting too much weight on it. Also, I think tolls are cheaper.
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I think its per axle here on the FL Turnpike.
Glad to hear you got THE bus you were looking for!
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01-23-2017, 08:13 PM
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#25
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I think its per axle here on the FL Turnpike.
Glad to hear you got THE bus you were looking for!
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Didn't get it yet
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01-24-2017, 08:25 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,896
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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im at a coffee shop without my headphones so I couldnt watch the vids with soiund, looks like a decent bus... Texas busses are always dusty.. its hot and dry in the summer.. they mauy very well have gotten rid of the bus purely because ther Air-Conditioner quit working.. to have a Coach A/C serviced professionally can be some big bucks, so the school at that point may have decided to give up on that bus.
if you get it and bring it to the SkolliePalooza florida edition we can look at it.. I plan to bring my A/C tools to florida with me on this trip as i want to make a repair on one of my Freon Lines on Redbyrd.. I found a very very slow leak while I was working on my air-lines earlier this week.
transmission fluid color is definitely a nice way to gauge whether the transmission has been run hot before...
like the chart you had above. pull the stick, wipe it clean with a paper towel.. dip it back in, pull it out and let a few drops drip onto a pure white paper or plastic and look at it.. it should be clear and pink to red but not brown or cloudy.
if its all foamy or lots of bubbles when you pull the stick it means the transmission is running Low on fluid or the pump is sucking air due sometimes to a dislodged or cracked pan filter and means the transmission was run with low pressure..
-Christopher
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01-24-2017, 01:26 PM
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#27
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
im at a coffee shop without my headphones so I couldnt watch the vids with soiund, looks like a decent bus... Texas busses are always dusty.. its hot and dry in the summer.. they mauy very well have gotten rid of the bus purely because ther Air-Conditioner quit working.. to have a Coach A/C serviced professionally can be some big bucks, so the school at that point may have decided to give up on that bus.
if you get it and bring it to the SkolliePalooza florida edition we can look at it.. I plan to bring my A/C tools to florida with me on this trip as i want to make a repair on one of my Freon Lines on Redbyrd.. I found a very very slow leak while I was working on my air-lines earlier this week.
transmission fluid color is definitely a nice way to gauge whether the transmission has been run hot before...
like the chart you had above. pull the stick, wipe it clean with a paper towel.. dip it back in, pull it out and let a few drops drip onto a pure white paper or plastic and look at it.. it should be clear and pink to red but not brown or cloudy.
if its all foamy or lots of bubbles when you pull the stick it means the transmission is running Low on fluid or the pump is sucking air due sometimes to a dislodged or cracked pan filter and means the transmission was run with low pressure..
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Hey Christopher
I plan on going over to see the bus again on Thursday. I will perform the white paper test. I'll record a video of it and of the underside of the bus.
I might just do a full service service on it before the trip and leave the tranny cooler upgrade/AC fix/ any other customization for a shop in Ocala that someone recommended.
So far the shops I've contacted want to just add a second cooler vs replace the one there. Seems like the shops offer to do the opposite of what I'm researching.
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01-24-2017, 01:28 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Is it overheating the tranny?
If not why mess with it that far from home?
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01-24-2017, 02:08 PM
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#29
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Is it overheating the tranny?
If not why mess with it that far from home?
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Hey east,
As far as I can tell, no problems, I'm just traumatized from my last bus.
Trying to avoid any potential problems in the 1k+ trip.
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01-24-2017, 02:54 PM
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#30
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,896
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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the right way is to leave the existing cooler and add a secxond one on.. that way if you travel into very cold weather the coolant can help keep the transmission warm enough.. any trans cooler ive installed in any of my hotrods was always an added cooler to the stock one.. only time I didnt was the last momnte carlo i built, didnt have a stock cooler for the massive radiator i used so I had only the aftermarket one.
-Christopher
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01-24-2017, 03:13 PM
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#31
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oricha1984
Hey east,
As far as I can tell, no problems, I'm just traumatized from my last bus.
Trying to avoid any potential problems in the 1k+ trip.
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If my crusty 92 can make it from KY that pretty lil darling ought to make it just fine. You've done more vetting than 99% of us. I think you should be more than fine. Just check the fluids every so often after draining your own fluids and you'll be fine. If you don't see any real leaks or dripping after its full warm and been driven, then I wouldn't sweat it any more.
Any mechanical thing than and will eventually fail. The more YOU do yourself the better the chance you won't have any major avoidable issues.
It shouldn't have tranny cooling issues cruising down the freeway. I'd think towing, loaded, or lots of stop and go would be the places that issue could be more likely.
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01-24-2017, 03:31 PM
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#32
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
the right way is to leave the existing cooler and add a secxond one on.. that way if you travel into very cold weather the coolant can help keep the transmission warm enough.. any trans cooler ive installed in any of my hotrods was always an added cooler to the stock one.. only time I didnt was the last momnte carlo i built, didnt have a stock cooler for the massive radiator i used so I had only the aftermarket one.
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Correct me if I am wrong,
Fuild circulation: tranny -> radiator -> accessory cooler -> tranny
From my readings, adding another accessory cooler. Could create too much back preasure and cousing the by pass valve to open.
tranny -> radiator -> accessory cooler -> second external cooler -> tranny
I read is best to replace stock accessory cooler with larger 6.0 cooler.
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01-24-2017, 03:39 PM
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#33
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If my crusty 92 can make it from KY that pretty lil darling ought to make it just fine. You've done more vetting than 99% of us. I think you should be more than fine. Just check the fluids every so often after draining your own fluids and you'll be fine. If you don't see any real leaks or dripping after its full warm and been driven, then I wouldn't sweat it any more.
Any mechanical thing than and will eventually fail. The more YOU do yourself the better the chance you won't have any major avoidable issues.
It shouldn't have tranny cooling issues cruising down the freeway. I'd think towing, loaded, or lots of stop and go would be the places that issue could be more likely.
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Hahaha. Even my wife told me, just buy the damn bus already, lol.
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01-24-2017, 07:01 PM
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#34
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,109
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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This community is awesome! What great support!
Bus looks awesome, I'm with your wife, just buy it already!
Sandi
www.thismidwifetravels.com
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01-24-2017, 07:38 PM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,896
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oricha1984
Correct me if I am wrong,
Fuild circulation: tranny -> radiator -> accessory cooler -> tranny
From my readings, adding another accessory cooler. Could create too much back preasure and cousing the by pass valve to open.
tranny -> radiator -> accessory cooler -> second external cooler -> tranny
I read is best to replace stock accessory cooler with larger 6.0 cooler.
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I admit i dont have a lot of experience with ford transmissions.. my experience is from beating the hell out of GM transmissions with 500+ horsepower engines.. I never removed the stock coolers.. but maybe fords are different.. GM's engaged the cooler anytime the converter was locked on the 700s and anytime you reached 2nd gear on the others.. maybe the bypass valve was one of the passages I drilled out when I was working the valve bodies over.. been over 10 years since I built my last transmission..
You can certainly pay someone to do all of your mechanical work if you like.. However if you learn to do small things yourself you will become much more confident in your bus and also less fearful of breakdowns as you learn how things are supposed to work , then you can pick up on possible issues before they become issues , or at least before you become stranded on the road..
I have confidence you coulkd install your own transmission cooler.. if thats a 6.0 then yeah installing an EGR cooler delete gets more involved.. (and something you want.. or at least a high performance EGR cooler)..
The air conditioning? if you bring the bus to ECCB bus gathering we can give it a look.. it isnt like you'll need to run it before then.. its not predicted to be hot outside even in florida for a bit yet.. then you can learn how that works too..
-Christopher
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01-24-2017, 10:17 PM
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#36
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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There are some very effective in-line coolers available these days. Piece of cake to install on coming out as well as going back in to the tranny.
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01-25-2017, 07:44 PM
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#37
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oricha1984
This one is a 350 chassis. My previous bus was 450 chassis and had double rear tires.
I like the single rear. I don't plan on putting too much weight on it. Also, I think tolls are cheaper.
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This is a dual rear E-350
2005 ford E 350 school bus
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01-25-2017, 08:14 PM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,896
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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did you buy the Bus???
-Christopher
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01-25-2017, 10:12 PM
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#39
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 939
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Hello all,
Tango. I'll have to learn about it some more. There seem to been a wide range of coolers. The common suggestion seems to be to upgrade to the ford 6.0 tranny cooler.
Milkmania. I'm no expert in chassis, I was just comparing to my previous bus. I think that one seems to have a wider body than the one I'm looking at. Maybe, that's the reason for the double rear.
Christopher, my last bus was a one night stand. This one I'm taking my sweet time with it. Tomorrow is our second date. Stay tune for more pictures/videos.
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01-25-2017, 10:14 PM
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#40
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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No worries.... Was just soaking it all in, learning as I go
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