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Old 06-20-2017, 12:08 AM   #1
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ISO Alternator brackets for 22SI on 5.9

Millicent needs an upgrade from her wimpy "car" alternator to a better one.

Albatross has the much better Delco 22SI alternator, so I figure I will use the same on Millicent.

Trouble is, the brackets are different, since the 22SI is larger.
So I'm in search of those brackets.

Will try to post photos tomorrow.

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Old 06-20-2017, 12:54 AM   #2
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Millicent needs an upgrade from her wimpy "car" alternator to a better one.

Albatross has the much better Delco 22SI alternator, so I figure I will use the same on Millicent.

Trouble is, the brackets are different, since the 22SI is larger.
So I'm in search of those brackets.

Will try to post photos tomorrow.
https://www.dieselconversion.com/alt...2-cummins.html
They may have something. They have that bracket to mount a Ford alternator on a Dodge 5.9
Maybe look for the bracket first and then find the alternator you can make work?

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Old 06-20-2017, 07:16 AM   #3
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what about a Bosch SB200 series? they will fit on standard "car-style" alternator mounts and will get you 200 amps...

there are lots of SKU's in the series.. seems to be about one for everything.. they are designed to give high percentage of output at low alternator RPM.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:26 AM   #4
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I will look into these. But I'm thinking it would make more sense to use the Blue Bird setup, identical to what I have on Albatross.

The Ford conversion is intended for Dodge pickups. And I believe there are differences between that version of the 5,9 and the commercial version -- though I don't know what those differences are. So it could be a can of worms.

I could fab the brackets, but I would have to disassemble the Albatross setup to copy it. And precision matters with belt alignment and tension.

No hurry. This is for next time I replace this darned thing.
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The bluebird version only difference is the front cover. It is wider towards the right (driver side in an FE) to accommodate the air pump.

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On both of mine, which are front engine, the air compressor is on the left (driver side), and the alternator on the right (passenger).
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Ahhh
That's interesting. Seems there are even different versions for Bluebird.

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There are tons of small differences between Millicent and Albatross. Certainly more than I would have expected for two buses that are only two years apart.

It seems likely that they were built at different plants. This may be possible to determine from the VIN, but I have not bothered.
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obn FE or CE style school busses ive never seen the air brake compressor on the opassenger side.. I just figured it was because all the tanks and such are always on the driver side..
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:47 PM   #10
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Well, there is a first time for everything, they say.

And a pair of first here.



Albatross, 1994 BB.





Millicent, 1992 BB.
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Did I neglect to post the photos of the brackets I want? Can I be that old?







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Do you have or know someone that has a welding machine? Looks easy enough to make.
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Do you have or know someone that has a welding machine? Looks easy enough to make.
Your asking the guy who fabs pedal driven contraptions and is building an airplane/bus mashup... Lol

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fa·ce·tious
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treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.
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"unfortunately, they took my facetious remarks seriously"
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Hahaha. I did. Sorry.

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if its just not long enough you can use a spacer.. ive seen kits for adapting alternators that came with spacers just for that purpose.
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Of course I could fab these three pieces. But why spend my rather precious time left on Earth that way, if I can spend it on something more creative?

Photo from a couple weekends ago at a "race" in Oregon. We were slowest, but we completed the two-day course without a single demerit.
We bleeping FLEW over that gravel-mud-water obstacle in the photo.
That's the kind of stuff I enjoy fabricating. When that thing is finished, it will resemble a motorcycle with a sidecar. It's just a raw chassis now.
(Me in straw hat. Much younger man in sidecar.)
All pedal-powered, yes. And amphibious.

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that thing is bad ass!! Id love to ride it!!
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We are moving at maybe 1/2 MPH.
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Sweeeet!. Now...if it just had a little 350 Chevy dropped in there...
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