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Old 01-06-2021, 12:31 AM   #61
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I'm curious - why do you want a mid-engine Super II? Will you be doing a conversion to it, or keeping it seated and in original condition? Where is this middie from? Is it an auto, or one of the rarer-than-hen's-teeth 10-speed mid-engine Super IIs? Some years ago Crescent City sold their 38-foot mid-engine 10-speed Super II, and that's the only one I've ever seen sold.

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John,

I think I see a kick down linkage from the auto transmission attached to the throttle lever on the governor. Very normal for the Allisons to have this, and it causes several adjustment related headaches for the bus operation if it isn't done correctly. Interesting in the extreme for me since I hadn't seen one, or even knew they bothered with it on the Crown II's, until you mentioned it.

Check the site he listed and it appears to be Rialto Unified where those Crown II's were photographed. 2010, old to be sure. Cut and paste was this sites' best friend, obviously. One thing he said in his comments I found interesting was how the District "had trouble with" the Detroit engines because they Smoked??

This sounds to me like the management of the Transportation Dept was your typical soulless Gov't. Apparatchik. Either they were EcoNazis with no history of these engines to compare what older diesels were like, and how much cleaner they now were, or they were using multi-grade engine oil like the dim bulbs they may have been, which absolutely guarantees they will smoke, and smoke a LOT, and slobber oil all over the place......without any further information I will bite my tongue, but I've seen some REALLY dumb things done by some districts that should not have been done, while any REAL Transportation Dept experts and mechanics would have known what to do.

This also adds to the spiciness of finding and buying Crowns today without knowing whose hands they have been passing through for the last many decades. Some good, some not so good, and some downright scary.

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Old 01-06-2021, 11:23 PM   #62
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I'm curious - why do you want a mid-engine Super II? Will you be doing a conversion to it, or keeping it seated and in original condition? Where is this middie from? Is it an auto, or one of the rarer-than-hen's-teeth 10-speed mid-engine Super IIs? Some years ago Crescent City sold their 38-foot mid-engine 10-speed Super II, and that's the only one I've ever seen sold.

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Ah......you misunderstand my intentions sir! I was merely curious if the mid engine SC2 ever existed, you confirmed earlier it did, and I got lucky and found pics while looking at a Crown fanpage. I felt compelled to share here as the interest appeared to exist.

I am not actively pursing an SC2.
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