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10-11-2017, 05:29 AM
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#2921
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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10-11-2017, 06:11 AM
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#2922
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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None of them right now
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10-11-2017, 06:21 AM
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#2923
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
None of them right now
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Getting pricey already. They're probably one of the last batches of really nice looking ones.
I REALLY wish I had a way to get one. But sadly I don't think its gona happen.
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10-11-2017, 07:06 AM
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#2924
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 168
Year: 2004
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 31 w/4 wheel chair spots
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
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Wow that is a good looking shortie!
What kind of headache would 2004 emissions be?
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10-11-2017, 07:52 AM
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#2925
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Getting pricey already. They're probably one of the last batches of really nice looking ones.
I REALLY wish I had a way to get one. But sadly I don't think its gona happen.
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I wish I had a way to get it here and a place to keep it! Lol
I love my bus... But I have a thing for crowns.
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
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10-11-2017, 11:04 AM
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#2926
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NY,NY
Posts: 16
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: Cummins 8.3 Mechanical (6CT)
Rated Cap: 80
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Second post here...wohoo  ! I'm likely bidding on the low mileage 855 tandem axle (bus number 22).
Separately, according to the crown folks (there's a couple of FB groups) there's about 30 that should be going up for sale throughout Cali in January. The buses will be coming from districts that haven't managed to get CARB exemptions for their crowns.
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10-11-2017, 11:21 AM
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#2927
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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hopefully they let those crowns be sold and the government doesnt swoop in with a trade-in and destroy program over the next couple months..
as for who asked about that 2004 emissions.. likely not bad at all.. if at all that DT-466 might have EGR but it wont have the full suite of emissions unless something was added for New york state. from what it seems, the add-ons were pretty separate and can be removed..
I question the 3060 in that shorty only because it has a mechanical shifter, I thought the 3060 required an electronic shifter.. but in 04 that bus should at least have a 2000, the 2004 spec DT-466E had too much torque for a 545..
-Christopher
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10-11-2017, 11:26 AM
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#2928
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
hopefully they let those crowns be sold and the government doesnt swoop in with a trade-in and destroy program over the next couple months..
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I stopped-in the local bus barn in Illinois today, the Director told me they have been torching frames and drilling blocks per EPA mandates.
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10-11-2017, 11:58 AM
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#2929
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huskerbus
Wow that is a good looking shortie!
What kind of headache would 2004 emissions be?
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I hate this thread. It drives the price up on every bus I'm bidding on!
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10-11-2017, 11:58 AM
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#2930
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydogisgreat
Second post here...wohoo ! I'm likely bidding on the low mileage 855 tandem axle (bus number 22).
Separately, according to the crown folks (there's a couple of FB groups) there's about 30 that should be going up for sale throughout Cali in January. The buses will be coming from districts that haven't managed to get CARB exemptions for their crowns. |
You and I are bidding against each other.
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10-11-2017, 12:07 PM
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#2931
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huskerbus
Wow that is a good looking shortie!
What kind of headache would 2004 emissions be?
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Well I was outbid this morning, probably for the best. Things starting to seem like it might be a rust bucket. For the 1500 I'd bid, I was willing to risk some possible rust repair. But the seller is refusing to show the underside of the bus at all and replied that the chassis is rusty.
I'll pass I reckon. Unless someone in NY wants to go look at it and snap some pics for me.
I really want a 466 shorty though.
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10-11-2017, 12:16 PM
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#2932
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NY,NY
Posts: 16
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: Cummins 8.3 Mechanical (6CT)
Rated Cap: 80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Well I was outbid this morning, probably for the best. Things starting to seem like it might be a rust bucket. For the 1500 I'd bid, I was willing to risk some possible rust repair. But the seller is refusing to show the underside of the bus at all and replied that the chassis is rusty.
I'll pass I reckon. Unless someone in NY wants to go look at it and snap some pics for me.
I really want a 466 shorty though.
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I live near NYC, could get some pics this weekend if you're interested...just let me know.
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10-11-2017, 12:20 PM
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#2933
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydogisgreat
I live near NYC, could get some pics this weekend if you're interested...just let me know.
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That would be awesome. They're only available during the week though.
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10-11-2017, 12:24 PM
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#2934
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NY,NY
Posts: 16
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: Cummins 8.3 Mechanical (6CT)
Rated Cap: 80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
That would be awesome. They're only available during the week though.
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I work weekdays...weekends are the only time I can leave the city (office job  ). If you can convince them to let me in on Sat/Sun let me know and I'm happy to head out there!
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10-11-2017, 12:36 PM
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#2935
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydogisgreat
I work weekdays...weekends are the only time I can leave the city (office job ). If you can convince them to let me in on Sat/Sun let me know and I'm happy to head out there! |
Ok, cool. I'll ask em!
I though I'd been outbid, but I'm still high bidder.
I'm cool with it for the current price, but I'm not going to bid another cent.
Its got a killer drivetrain, but I'll likely spend a year fixing all the rust underneath. And I bet the floor is rotten under that plywood.
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10-11-2017, 12:51 PM
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#2936
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I called them, but they were a little less than friendly.
I was told all questions must be posed in email form. Why have the contact number?
IDK, for what I bid I'm willing to roll the dice I reckon.
Hoping to get a 466 with OD and AC. That's what Roxy wants. We're selling both our buses and looking for one shorty with the exact setup we want. This bus is close, but I've never considered NY buses due to the likelihood of rust.
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10-11-2017, 01:34 PM
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#2937
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NY,NY
Posts: 16
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: Cummins 8.3 Mechanical (6CT)
Rated Cap: 80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I called them, but they were a little less than friendly.
I was told all questions must be posed in email form. Why have the contact number?
IDK, for what I bid I'm willing to roll the dice I reckon.
Hoping to get a 466 with OD and AC. That's what Roxy wants. We're selling both our buses and looking for one shorty with the exact setup we want. This bus is close, but I've never considered NY buses due to the likelihood of rust.
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Can't say I'm surprised a New Yorker was rude...(I hate it here...) Good luck on the bus. It looks like there's a ton of new postings on GovDeals today shorties included.
I'm going for those Cali crowns to try to avoid the rust up here...it's killer.
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10-11-2017, 01:35 PM
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#2938
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
hopefully they let those crowns be sold and the government doesnt swoop in with a trade-in and destroy program over the next couple months..
as for who asked about that 2004 emissions.. likely not bad at all.. if at all that DT-466 might have EGR but it wont have the full suite of emissions unless something was added for New york state. from what it seems, the add-ons were pretty separate and can be removed..
I question the 3060 in that shorty only because it has a mechanical shifter, I thought the 3060 required an electronic shifter.. but in 04 that bus should at least have a 2000, the 2004 spec DT-466E had too much torque for a 545..
-Christopher
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I have seen a couple of buses that supposedly had 3060s with mechanical shifters. IIRC: The shifter was marked: (D) D 3 2 1 N R. The 545 & 643's where marked: D 3 2 1 N R.
I was not able to confirm first hand that they were 3060s though.
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10-11-2017, 02:07 PM
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#2939
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mydogisgreat
Can't say I'm surprised a New Yorker was rude...(I hate it here...) Good luck on the bus. It looks like there's a ton of new postings on GovDeals today shorties included.
I'm going for those Cali crowns to try to avoid the rust up here...it's killer.
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Go for the single axle with the 855. That's the one I was bidding on. 1986. Thats THE one!
But I can't afford to play the crown game yet.
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10-11-2017, 02:07 PM
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#2940
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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The 2000s are usually marked R N D 4 2 1,
The 2000 is the most widely used on conventional chassis, though 3000s can be used as well. Chassis rust often looks worse than it is. Unless the frame rails are bad or the ribs are so bad they are soft I don't think of it as being horrible . Though obviously southern busses with nearly none do show up for sale, my thoughts is they are harder to come by with big engines and OD because they are run longer and not in hilly areas so lower engines and 545s are still common.. the older the bus the less likely for OD and Air con though most from Texas and Arizona are AC.
I'd still want pics of any northern bus that you consider paying real money for.
Christopher
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