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01-18-2018, 12:46 PM
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#3321
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...01&acctid=2628
This one has 6 hours left at 1200 dollars, 6.5 gm turbo diesel, 4L80 trans, 4.68 rear end , AC and under 50K miles, P42 workhorse chassis short bus
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01-18-2018, 01:27 PM
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#3322
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Upstate, SC
Posts: 279
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Would someone that has bought from the government liquidation sites give me a rundown on what it takes to actually finish the purchase after the online sale closes? I have read that a lot of places will not allow vehicles to leave under their own power. They have to be towed off the lot before they can be driven. I'd also like to know about fees and other charges. I know one guy on another forum bought a vehicle from a gov auction sight and when everything was finalized, it wasn't such a good deal. The final price was nearly doubled.
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01-18-2018, 01:28 PM
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#3323
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Originally Posted by Kubla
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Kinda looks like something that Turpin family wouldn't be seen in.
...and I have a few P42 Workhorse vans- don't mind the look.
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01-18-2018, 03:17 PM
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#3324
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Ms Brokedown and I joke about how that's the ugliest style of bus we've seen. WIth that said, the powertrain and condition look great for the money!
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01-18-2018, 04:04 PM
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#3325
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Just got off the phone with Midwest Transit Equipment. Was disappointed to learn that most of the buses they have for $3500 or less need some sort of roadworthiness repairs. When school districts liquidate they get mass quantities of buses to list, but have customers in central america that leave $100k deposits and buy buses 100 at a time , which leaves little left for us skoolies to choose from. You can get on a list and might get lucky to find a stray come through they will notify you about. They said it would be march at the earliest to have anything on my list of requirements to come through. They also said what I'd heard about the 5.9 is not necessarily true and that they have some that quite good, Also said the electronic issues we hear about hear didn't really start until after 05.
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01-18-2018, 06:32 PM
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#3326
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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The workhorse sold for 2320, wonder if someone on here bought it
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01-18-2018, 06:36 PM
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#3327
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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There was a series of 5.9 blocks from 1999 to 2002 stamped "53" on the side that were prone to cracking. To my knowledge that was the only fatal flaw you should be looking out for in the preferred year range of these things.
Otherwise the 5.9 is a good engine. The 8.3 is incrementally "better" but the reason people here prefer them is largely because it's bigger (more power, better chance of a stronger transmission) than for the in-frame rebuild option.
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01-18-2018, 09:31 PM
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#3328
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Just got off the phone with Midwest Transit Equipment. Was disappointed to learn that most of the buses they have for $3500 or less need some sort of roadworthiness repairs. When school districts liquidate they get mass quantities of buses to list, but have customers in central america that leave $100k deposits and buy buses 100 at a time , which leaves little left for us skoolies to choose from. You can get on a list and might get lucky to find a stray come through they will notify you about. They said it would be march at the earliest to have anything on my list of requirements to come through. They also said what I'd heard about the 5.9 is not necessarily true and that they have some that quite good, Also said the electronic issues we hear about hear didn't really start until after 05.
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Just be patient. In summer GovDeals and Public surplus will have a lot more buses than this time of year.
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01-18-2018, 09:51 PM
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#3329
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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You'll also find that the big boy buyers pull way back on their bidding in the last couple weeks before tax time. So first half of April you won't find as much competition from the big bus buyers.
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Nobody's Business
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01-18-2018, 10:14 PM
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#3330
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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They said my best bet was going to be around March before they start the next big run. The guy I spoke with a Midwest seemed to be pretty knowledgable and had great praise for the Cummins 5.9, did agree they weren't good mountain climbers and if I wanted highway speeds to just change the rear gears, cheaper than a tranny swap.
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01-18-2018, 11:01 PM
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#3331
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
They said my best bet was going to be around March before they start the next big run. The guy I spoke with a Midwest seemed to be pretty knowledgable and had great praise for the Cummins 5.9, did agree they weren't good mountain climbers and if I wanted highway speeds to just change the rear gears, cheaper than a tranny swap.
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Makes sense, but don't go too high. Big gears need big power to pull them. Would help a lot on regular highways, but you'd be shifting more on hills.
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01-18-2018, 11:01 PM
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#3332
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
They said my best bet was going to be around March before they start the next big run. The guy I spoke with a Midwest seemed to be pretty knowledgable and had great praise for the Cummins 5.9, did agree they weren't good mountain climbers and if I wanted highway speeds to just change the rear gears, cheaper than a tranny swap.
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MidWest is 20 mi from me. Our school district leases all their buses from them- at least 175 buses. All beautiful, new IC conventional. MidWest doesn't care about selling the buses for top dollar- they already are paid for from the lease.
Imagine you are an electrician and someone asks you for some wire nuts- "Sure , no big deal, have a handful", that is what buses are to these people- just a commodity. They are doing just fine with their biz model.
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01-18-2018, 11:03 PM
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#3333
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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The 5.9 is like the first car you had. It wasn't fast, but it would get you there. I also agree that the 545 doesn't respond well to climbing hills. I'd have probably still bought this bus.
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Nobody's Business
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01-18-2018, 11:06 PM
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#3334
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Makes sense, but don't go too high. Big gears need big power to pull them. Would help a lot on regular highways, but you'd be shifting more on hills.
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We talked about the area I would be using most, east coast, and weren't worried about the few times I might go over the Rockies.
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01-18-2018, 11:10 PM
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#3335
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
MidWest is 20 mi from me. Our school district leases all their buses from them- at least 175 buses. All beautiful, new IC conventional. MidWest doesn't care about selling the buses for top dollar- they already are paid for from the lease.
Imagine you are an electrician and someone asks you for some wire nuts- "Sure , no big deal, have a handful", that is what buses are to these people- just a commodity. They are doing just fine with their biz model.
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MacAllister bus is the same.
I got a great deal on my bus from there.
They had the same attitude... They made their, money, anything they get is gravy...
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
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01-19-2018, 01:24 AM
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#3336
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: PNW
Posts: 33
Year: 1987
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: Dt466
Rated Cap: 42
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5 window project
https://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cto/d/1970-international-short-bus/6464305633.html
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01-19-2018, 05:50 PM
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#3338
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
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Hell of a nice bus!
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01-19-2018, 05:52 PM
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#3339
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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https://nwks.craigslist.org/rvs/d/sc...452979423.html
may need a little work, but its a low price for someone to start with one already built
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01-19-2018, 05:58 PM
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#3340
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Hell of a nice bus!
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take 4 windows off and id jump on it. thats one just too big for me and my future travel dog. id also worry about the ground clearance on one like that. how much would it limit your travel? im over 6 foot so the interior height is appealing
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