Non-affiliated buses for sale - thread

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by ourmefa

My crawler pulled up a couple more good ones I think - all have DT466 engines - some are electronic some are not.

Prisoner bus is nice but I'm more interested in this crawler of yours. Details?

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach

I also wonder about mixing metals. If they haven't provided for a barrier between them the electrolysis will be eating away at the different metals already.

This could be answered with an email (and probably photos) easily enough.

The price is attractive but I think this one really falls into the buyer beware category.

VERY. And it has the grunt work already done.

So, let's assume the worst. They slapped the aluminum up there AND sanded the steel bare that its coming in contact with. Worst case... not that anyone would purposely do that. What would it take to "fix" it? Pop the bottom couple of rivets and spray it? Rubber insert of some kind?

Even with the warning, I'm very interested in it. Only 91K miles. The DT466 is a good engine no? Assuming it has good tranny and gear ratios...

Originally Posted by Njsurf73

So if someone local wanted it, I wouldn't see a problem (after actually inspecting it) but I don't see it making and long trips at the moment.

I do. Some hearing protection, 16 rolls of duct tape, and a tarp.

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

Nobody wants to make a transition for the low to high sections!

I do.

[cgbils]

Originally Posted by Elliot Naess

Didn't anybody reply to you yet? Shame on us.
Welcome!

My first thought is that this bus is overpriced.

Next, it has "Dayton" wheels, which some folks like just fine, and I consider a serious drawback. Dayton wheels require skill to install straight. By contrast, Budd wheels -- like on any car or pickup -- just bolt on and you cannot do it wrong.

The engine is the predecessor of the 444 (7.3), so it is probably a reasonably reliable model of engine.

The low mileage is interesting. If it is accurate. But vehicles also deteriorate by sheer age.

Does it really have air brakes? Judging by all the wheel chocks, perhaps not. UNLESS... it has air brakes WITHOUT spring-applied parking brakes ("maxis", to old truckers). But I'm pretty sure maxis were required by law by then.
If it has a combination of air and hydraulic... run, don't walk.

The condition of the transmission is important, as those are expensive to fix.

New tires and wheels? Would that be new-to-him, or brand new? The chalk marks on that rear tire suggests second-hand.

Two new batteries? Two different models, with cables cobbled together like a child's erector set. I'm not impressed.

Thank you kind Sir! I love this site because of the wealth of knowledge here. Looks like I am off to do some more searching lol

[dan-fox]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

$4000 tops. That's my take on it.

I still want to know the diff ratio and whether it has full-width luggage compartments. Otherwise, it's my bus down to a T.

[Brewerbob]

Denver bus... the kid used some kind of marine grade epoxy between the AL sheeting and the steel windows. He can't remember brand or type. Think that's good enough for a barrier?

Build sheet attached but the short version is...:
- DT466E 190HP@2300 Governed to 2600
- Hydraulic brakes
- 145 amp alt
+ Engine block heater
- Allison 545 Four speed
- 65 gallon tank
- spring suspension
+ 74" roof raised to 8'
+ luggage underfloor
/ 4.44 ratio gears
- governor road speed 55

- = less than the OR bus I was looking at
+ = better than
/ = dunno

[Njsurf73]

Originally Posted by Brewerbob

Denver bus... the kid used some kind of marine grade epoxy between the AL sheeting and the steel windows. He can't remember brand or type. Think that's good enough for a barrier?

Build sheet attached but the short version is...:
- DT466E 190HP@2300 Governed to 2600
- Hydraulic brakes
- 145 amp alt
+ Engine block heater
- Allison 545 Four speed
- 65 gallon tank
- spring suspension
+ 74" roof raised to 8'
+ luggage underfloor
/ 4.44 ratio gears
- governor road speed 55

- = less than the OR bus I was looking at
+ = better than
/ = dunno

Looks like more negative than positive.

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[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by Njsurf73

Looks like more negative than positive.

The roof is a biggie and I lost out on the bidding for the OR bus. A $4k bid would cost me $6k by time I got it home. And that's assuming the bidding stops at $4k.

Not sure what I should do.

[Njsurf73]

Originally Posted by Brewerbob

The roof is a biggie and I lost out on the bidding for the OR bus. A $4k bid would cost me $6k by time I got it home. And that's assuming the bidding stops at $4k.

Not sure what I should do.

I would regroup and keep your eyes open. The right bus is out there.
There will be more busses that come along that will fit your needs. It's hard to wait, but it sometimes is the best play.


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[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by Njsurf73

I would regroup and keep your eyes open. The right bus is out there.
There will be more buses that come along that will fit your needs. It's hard to wait, but it sometimes is the best play.

May/June isn't all that far off for the "new" crop coming out but waiting sucks!!

[Rameses]

Originally Posted by Brewerbob

The roof is a biggie and I lost out on the bidding for the OR bus. A $4k bid would cost me $6k by time I got it home. And that's assuming the bidding stops at $4k.

Not sure what I should do.

I thought a high roof was a huge bonus when I was looking for a bus. I ended up getting a low roof and am extremely glad I did. I would've been really tempted to leave it the stock height if it were a high roof, but a standard roof, with a minimal raise (8"), is far superior in my opinion.

[Njsurf73]

Originally Posted by Rameses

I thought a high roof was a huge bonus when I was looking for a bus. I ended up getting a low roof and am extremely glad I did. I would've been really tempted to leave it the stock height if it were a high roof, but a standard roof, with a minimal raise (8"), is far superior in my opinion.

That is if you plan on full timing in it. I plan on using it as a family camper and Adventure wagon. I want a tall bus, because I am not going to do a raise. I have thought about doing an "atrium" over the shower. Or dropping the floor pan in the shower, just for comfort. But anything like that is an addition I will make after the bus is operational.
It all depends on how you plan on using it.

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[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Brewerbob

This could be answered with an email (and probably photos) easily enough.

VERY. And it has the grunt work already done.

So, let's assume the worst. They slapped the aluminum up there AND sanded the steel bare that its coming in contact with. Worst case... not that anyone would purposely do that. What would it take to "fix" it? Pop the bottom couple of rivets and spray it? Rubber insert of some kind?

Even with the warning, I'm very interested in it. Only 91K miles. The DT466 is a good engine no? Assuming it has good tranny and gear ratios...

I do. Some hearing protection, 16 rolls of duct tape, and a tarp.

I do.

I guess you and I are on different ends of the spectrum. I see all sorts of red flags, you see "buy me".

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Rameses

I thought a high roof was a huge bonus when I was looking for a bus. I ended up getting a low roof and am extremely glad I did. I would've been really tempted to leave it the stock height if it were a high roof, but a standard roof, with a minimal raise (8"), is far superior in my opinion.

Agreed. I'm MORE than happy with the ten inch raise we just did!
I almost stopped raising at 8" but the group pushed me to go the extra couple.
Everyone has different wants and needs. I think a standard roof with a *sensible* lift is a pretty sweet way to go.

[cgbils]

Well I took a chance on one of those several buses out of VA that were listed on gov deals. After seeing that they had some 300K and 1 million miler buses, I figured the school corporations maintenance must have been pretty good. This one is one of their lower ones at 104,915 miles

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...1499&acctid=19

Got it for $1075 before the buyers premium. Now to go get the sucker lol. Any input on the bus would be much appreciated (good or bad). Thanks!

[oricha1984]

cool looking thing

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...25&acctid=8902

[Brewerbob]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

I guess you and I are on different ends of the spectrum. I see all sorts of red flags, you see "buy me".

The tranny sunk it. I don't want a 55mph bus.

https://reno.craigslist.org/hvo/5991838674.html

https://goldcountry.craigslist.org/cto/6023324584.html

These might not be bad if they will take ~$5k.

[Njsurf73]

Anyone know anything about CNG busses with John Deere 8.1 motors? Lol couple of them up near me. They need to be inspected and they are expected to fail said inspection.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by oricha1984

cool looking thing

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...25&acctid=8902

I saw that too! What a cool old truck, eh?

[DoubleO7]

Originally Posted by Njsurf73

Anyone know anything about CNG busses with John Deere 8.1 motors? Lol couple of them up near me. They need to be inspected and they are expected to fail said inspection.

check this thread out:vhttp://www.skoolie.net/forums/f28/wh...-cng-3818.html

[Njsurf73]

Originally Posted by DoubleO7

check this thread out:vhttp://www.skoolie.net/forums/f28/wh...-cng-3818.html

Thank you!

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