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01-28-2018, 03:38 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: London, UK (Building in Bellingham, WA)
Posts: 31
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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Second Opinion Please?
Found a bus which (I think) ticks all my boxes.
It's a 2002 Bluebird TC2000 with the 24v Cummins engine.
Good mileage for it's age and rust free.
Owner doesnt know the transmission type, so I plugged the serial number into the Allison website and it lists it as [Serial No]-2000. Does this mean its an AD2000 transmission?
Air brakes.
On the negative side:
It's got after market aircon which i think will be a beast to remove.
Price is on budget (wont share exact price but it's under 5k).
Is there anything I should look for specifically that i'm not aware of?
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01-28-2018, 03:44 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: London, UK (Building in Bellingham, WA)
Posts: 31
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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Also should note, it started first time.
No issues on the dash except Low Air Pressure (which I know takes time to fill - was still showing after 1 min though?).
It was very loud, but that's the FE buses.
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01-28-2018, 05:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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There's to much missing information.
Actual bus length?
Which Cummins? the 5.9 or the 8.3?
We don't need a link, but if you could copy some of the photos into this thread it would help get a more accurate evaluation.
Sounds like a nice bus. The TC2000 comes in a 40' model and a 28' model. The 5.9 is adequate in the shorter version but kind of weak in the long bus for long road trips. That would be a good thing if it does actually have the 2000 series allison. What is the age and condition of the tires?
Do you have some time before you have to pull the trigger?
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01-28-2018, 07:30 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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what does the shifter look like.. a 2000 will have R-N-D-4-2-1
a 545 or 643 will have R-N-D-3-2-1
-Christopher
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01-28-2018, 09:02 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: London, UK (Building in Bellingham, WA)
Posts: 31
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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It's the 5.9L Cummins but on the shorter bus (10 windows).
The shifter shows R-N-(D)-D-2-1 which threw me. Two Ds. One in a circle.
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01-28-2018, 09:15 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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The "D" in a circle is OD...OverDrive.
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01-29-2018, 02:50 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Buy it. Oh, wait...we don't know the price. Why is that secret?
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01-29-2018, 02:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
Buy it. Oh, wait...we don't know the price. Why is that secret?
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Guessing it's listed online and he doesn't want someone else grabbing it from under him
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01-29-2018, 03:21 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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It pains me to see people buying buses with AC (a premium feature) with the intention of removing it. A substantial number of threads here are about trying to add air conditioning.
A 24v cummins 5.9 on a 2002 bus may have the 2001 drivetrain. It's very common for the chassis to be the year previous to the bus. Make sure it's not a 53 block, google it for details if you don't already know.
My TC2000 with 5.9 takes a couple minutes to get to air pressure when starting from cold.
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02-05-2018, 11:15 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2006
Location: mid Mo.
Posts: 875
Year: 1976
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: F33695
Engine: 427 chevy converted to 466
Rated Cap: 84
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Life is a crap shoot and there are no promises so go for it, don't remove the air conditioning, work around it, you will learn so much from your new endeavor it will tickle you when you look back in a couple years realizing how little you new and how much wiser you are. sportyrick
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02-05-2018, 11:56 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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Driving AC is a good thing, leave it in there, with 2 D's on the shifter, you have an OD transmission which is good
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03-17-2018, 09:27 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: London, UK (Building in Bellingham, WA)
Posts: 31
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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Thought I'd pop back here to let you know that I bought it! Flew over to Vegas (from the UK) to finish the paperwork, and pick it up last month.
The big test will be in two weeks when I fly back to move it from Vegas to Washington State. I have a friend with a farm up there, where I can park it to do all the work.
Managed to get insurance, which was relatively easy (thanks to the resources on this site). Particularly given that I was trying to insure a school bus as a foreign citizen.
Gonna be interesting conversion, trying to complete the work from a Europe base. But need to get as much done before the end of September when I want to quit my job and start travelling.
I'm sure i'll be back for more info, as the conversion progresses!
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03-17-2018, 12:17 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
It pains me to see people buying buses with AC (a premium feature) with the intention of removing it. A substantial number of threads here are about trying to add air conditioning.
A 24v cummins 5.9 on a 2002 bus may have the 2001 drivetrain. It's very common for the chassis to be the year previous to the bus. Make sure it's not a 53 block, google it for details if you don't already know.
My TC2000 with 5.9 takes a couple minutes to get to air pressure when starting from cold.
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Amen!
I have been looking at what it would take to add road air to mine. I cringe when I see members taking it out.
Also, Good call on the 53 block. Here is info on identifying the 53 block : http://www.cumminshub.com/cummins-53-block.html
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03-17-2018, 01:00 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: London, UK (Building in Bellingham, WA)
Posts: 31
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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The comments on road air have definitely made me reconsider this. Will do my best to keep it in.
The only thing that worries me, is the ducts run the full length of the both sides and will need to be removed in order to insulate the roof. Removing and reinstalling aircon is testing the limit of my already limited skills.
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